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RD - 20 Feb 2006 07:46 GMT
I'm an old time member/lurker of this newsgroup, ever since my first day of
T in july '97. I'm a diabetic since august 2005, I'm on:
1.5g/day Metformin
8mg/day Atacand
80mg/day Rivasa

And I'm controlling my glucose levels through proper nutrition. However I've
noticed my T has risen, both in volume and the frquency of bad T days.  Not
sure but I think it's the Rivasa. The thing is that I'm afraid that I'll be
on the Rivasa for the rest of my life and most probably the rest of my
medication also.  Anyways, I've discussed the possibility of adding an
antidepressant to my medication list. I DO suffer from depression and the
fact that the heightened level of my T has worsened my bouts of depression
also.

So my question is: what antidepressant is T friendly?

As always, thanks for your help
R
M-1 - 25 Feb 2006 07:17 GMT
> So my question is: what antidepressant is T friendly?

I currently use Valium to ease the mental pain of T.
25 years ago I went deaf in my left ear after some
kind of inner ear infection and vertigo. Predisone
may have saved my hearing back then, but I dunno.
I don't think it was around back then.

Three days ago, a loud low roaring sound has now
started in my right ear, and I'm worried the same thing
is going to happen to my right ear as my left. So far, no
vertigo.

Brand name (Roche) Valium 10mg or so helps.
The generic is weak and dosen't really help.

I'm going to the doctor/hospital on Monday about
the new T in my right ear.

Xanax or Valium will help your mental angiush :)
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 25 Feb 2006 11:05 GMT
Hang on, brother! Continue to do with you have been doing, of course.
but do try other things you have not tried..OK?
Elly Byrne - 25 Feb 2006 19:16 GMT
Your loud roaring sound makes me think there is some kind of tension
in your body, especially your neck and shoulders.
http://eebee.net/TinnitusIsaPainintheNeck.shtml

It is most unlikely that the doctor will be able to help. He may send
you to an ENT who cannot help either.

Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/

>> So my question is: what antidepressant is T friendly?
>
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>
>Xanax or Valium will help your mental angiush :)
M-1 - 25 Feb 2006 20:17 GMT
> Your loud roaring sound makes me think there is some kind of tension
> in your body, especially your neck and shoulders.
> http://eebee.net/TinnitusIsaPainintheNeck.shtml

> It is most unlikely that the doctor will be able to help. He may send
> you to an ENT who cannot help either.

> Elly's Tinnitus Resources
> http://eebee.net/

I have sinus problems, allergies and contant post nasal drip.
I've had sinus surgery in 2003 to drain a completely blocked
up right maxillary sinus and an adenoidectomy to stop the
chronic sore throat that I was getting in the soft palate area.

These were very helpful procedures.

However, the post nasal drip continues and a CT scan shows
that the sinuses are clear. The doctor then (in 2004) decided
to do several CO2 laser turbinate reductions in the right and
left inferior turbinates to stop the post nasal drip.

These laser procedures did not help me and I think that the
laser may have done some damage to my turbinates as I now
have constant inflammation in the right turbinate and I have
much trouble sleeping because of the popping-snapping
that happens when I lay my head down at night to sleep.

But anyhow, as for my T, that has just started in my right
ear ... I have been irrigating my sinuses with saline solution
and think that some of the solution got up into my middle
and is causing me problems. The estachean tube would
have been the path for the solution to travel up into the ear.
But if the tube is clogged up, then the rancid fluid may have
no way to escape. Dunno what to do.

I'm not sure if the nasal irrigation has caused the T in my
right ear, but I thought I should mention it.
Eric J. Scharer - 25 Feb 2006 21:13 GMT
Your loud roaring sound makes me think there is some kind of tension
> in your body, especially your neck and shoulders.

What makes you think that??????????

> Your loud roaring sound makes me think there is some kind of tension
> in your body, especially your neck and shoulders.
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drfrank21@gmail.com - 26 Feb 2006 00:50 GMT
> Your loud roaring sound makes me think there is some kind of tension
> > in your body, especially your neck and shoulders.
>
> What makes you think that??????????

Because for Elly, all tinnitus is caused by muscle tension.

frank
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 26 Feb 2006 03:25 GMT
Elly has NEVER claimed that *all* tinnitus ills have been caused by
muscle tension.
drfrank21@gmail.com - 27 Feb 2006 01:04 GMT
> > Your loud roaring sound makes me think there is some kind of tension
> > > in your body, especially your neck and shoulders.
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> frank

At least Elly is just mis-guided but well intentioned; you're just
.........studpid.

frank
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 26 Feb 2006 03:36 GMT
The causes of tinnitus are very complex.  However, there is a big
percentage of tinnitus suffers who have been suffering from 'somatic or
muscle tinnitus' without realizing it.  If you want to know whether or
not your type is of a somatic one, all you need is to stretch out your
lower jaw and hear if the volume of the tinnitus sound can be altered
this way. The reasoning, I think, is this: the muscle tension in the
head/shoulder/neck area affects blood circulation in the head, which
gives rise to tinnitus.  I used to disbelieve it until I found that
sleeping without a pillow made a difference.  The idea of sleeping
without a pillow is to allow the body to lie flat to faciliate blood
circulation.  But it is uncomfortable for most people to do so.  Thus
the mid-way solution is to use a wrapped towel to support your neck
while you sleep.

Remember, even if you have done the right things, you still need a few
months before the whole thing subsides.  Difference people produce
various explanations for this.  One of these explanations is that once
the brain hears some sound, it stores it in its software and releases
it out in the future.  So it takes time.  But as long as the tinnitus
sound is tolerable, you should give ample time for the ill to recover.

I am very proud to tell the world that I have declared victory on my T!
Elly Byrne - 28 Feb 2006 19:31 GMT
>Your loud roaring sound makes me think there is some kind of tension
>> in your body, especially your neck and shoulders.
>
>What makes you think that??????????

Because that is how my tinnitus started. With an earache, which
progressed to a gentle hum, and then up to a loud roar which sounded
like a jet plane sitting on the roof.

http://eebee.net/TinnitusIsaPainintheNeck.shtml

Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/

>> Your loud roaring sound makes me think there is some kind of tension
>> in your body, especially your neck and shoulders.
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>> *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from
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Martin Smith - 28 Feb 2006 19:43 GMT
>>Your loud roaring sound makes me think there is some kind of tension
>>
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> progressed to a gentle hum, and then up to a loud roar which sounded
> like a jet plane sitting on the roof.

My case was sort of the opposite. One night, while lying in bed, there
was a sudden very loud, jet engine sound, although it was more like very
loud, squeely static discharge. It lasted for hours. I thought it was a
real noise coming from somewhere nearby, but I couldn't find anything
making the noise. The next morning it had subsided back to a hissing
sound. Sometimes it was there sometimes not, but it gradually became
steady. I only experience the problem, when I am in a room that is quiet
except for a very low machinery hum at a certain frequency.

I've had some success with glucosamine and neck and back strengthening
and stretching exercises, but by now I am conditioned to hear hear the
noise, so it is hard to eliminate the problem.

Fortunately, I only have the problem in a few rooms. Unfortunately, I
spend a lot of time in those rooms.
Murray Grossan - 05 Mar 2006 17:58 GMT

Melatonin Pills May Help Ease Tinnitus

Study Shows Biggest Benefit in Tinnitus Patients With Worst Sleep Quality
By Miranda Hitti
WebMD Medical News Reviewed By Louise Chang, MD
on Friday, February 24, 2006

Feb. 24, 2006 -- Melatonin supplements might curb tinnitus, possibly by
improving sleep, a new study shows.

Melatonin is a hormone made in the brain's pineal gland. Natural melatonin
helps regulate cycles of sleep and wakefulness. Levels of natural melatonin
tend to fade with age. Melatonin is also sold as a supplement.

People with tinnitus sense ringing, roaring, or humming sounds in their
ears. About 15 million people in the U.S. consider their tinnitus to be a
significant problem, according to statistics cited in the new study.

The study appears in Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery. The researchers
included Jay Piccirillo, MD, FACS, of Washington University School of
Medicine in St. Louis.

Tracking Tinnitus

The study included 18 adults with tinnitus. On average, the patients were
about 61 years old and had had tinnitus for 11 years. All were seen at
Washington University's department of otolaryngology-head and neck surgery.

First, patients rated their tinnitus symptoms and sleep quality. Then, they
took 3 milligrams of melatonin every day for four weeks. The patients were
monitored for four more weeks after they stopped taking the melatonin
supplements.

The patients' ratings of their tinnitus symptoms and poor sleep improved
during the study, even after they stopped taking melatonin. Perhaps the
melatonin pills had long-lasting effects, the researchers note.

Sleep's Role, Study's Limits

Tinnitus eased most in patients with the worst sleep ratings at the study's
start. Severity of tinnitus symptoms didn't affect the results.

Possibly, melatonin helps tinnitus by improving sleep, write the
researchers. However, they also note several limits to their study.

The study was small and brief. Also, all the patients knew they were taking
melatonin, which could have created a self-fulfilling belief that their
condition would improve. The study didn't include a comparison group of
patients taking empty pills (placebo).

SOURCES: Megwalu, U. Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery, February 2006;
vol 134: pp 210-213. WebMD Medical Reference from Healthwise: "Melatonin
Overview." News release, American Academy of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck
Surgery.
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