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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / February 2006my last "newbie" question
How long must tinnitus perdure in order to be called "chronic"? I've read 2 weeks on a site or six months+ in another. Is there some documented case of people who've had tinnitus for a bit and then it disappeared? Sorry for the naivete but I'm still entering into T's world and I'm quite upset. Also, I live in Italy where tinnitus is widely misunderstood. > How long must tinnitus perdure in order to be called "chronic"? I've > read 2 weeks on a site or six months+ in another. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Sorry for the naivete but I'm still entering into T's world and I'm > quite upset. Also, I live in Italy where tinnitus is widely misunderstood. Six months is the usual time frame referred to as establishing chronicity. Susan Tinnitus is widely misunderstood everywhere - Italy is not the only place. There are cases where tinnitus has totally disappeared. Unfoprtunately those people do not come bak and tell us. They are just happy to be rid of it. My tinnitus at its worst sounded like a jet engine sitting on the roof 24 hours a day. When the doctors could not help me I went looking in other places. That was 15 years ago. My best help came from a chiropractor who gave me a massage and neck manipulation. Elly's Tinnitus Resources http://eebee.net/ >How long must tinnitus perdure in order to be called "chronic"? I've >read 2 weeks on a site or six months+ in another. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Sorry for the naivete but I'm still entering into T's world and I'm >quite upset. Also, I live in Italy where tinnitus is widely misunderstood. > Tinnitus is widely misunderstood everywhere - Italy is not the only > place. > > There are cases where tinnitus has totally disappeared. Unfoprtunately > those people do not come bak and tell us. They are just happy to be > rid of it. That's not true; I have no tinnitus most of the time, which I've reported often. I get mild, soft tinnitus on occasions. > My tinnitus at its worst sounded like a jet engine sitting on the roof > 24 hours a day. When the doctors could not help me I went looking in > other places. That was 15 years ago. Mine, too, as antibiotic treatment caused a die off reaction in my infected nerves. Then it got quiet with continued treatment. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Mine, too, as antibiotic treatment caused a die off reaction in my > infected nerves. Then it got quiet with continued treatment. You know you are on Elly's side, right? Your example opposes the standard view. > You know you are on Elly's side, right? Your example opposes the > standard view. What an odd statement! I'm not on anyone's "side." I just like to take a wide view, not a myopic one, and to gather information from varied sources. I don't care about orthodoxy, and I don't care for a broad brush. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I don't care about orthodoxy, and I don't care for a broad brush. The point of Elly's view is exactly your last sentence. > The point of Elly's view is exactly your last sentence. I've been posting here a lot of years, and that has never been Elly's "point," nor has she needed a translator til you appointed yourself. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > >> The point of Elly's view is exactly your last sentence. > > I've been posting here a lot of years, and that has never been Elly's > "point," nor has she needed a translator til you appointed yourself. Funny, because the point I get from her is the orthodoxy is unproven and one should take a wider view. orthodoxy is as unproven to the same degree as UN-orthodoxy in the world of tinnitus. Hi Elly, Long time no hear! My tinnitus has become such that I have oftentimes forgotten it exists at all. And this has NOTHING to do with 'habituation'. I was teaching in the province of ZheJiang last few months and I ran into a pill named QIJU DIHUANGWAN. It is a rather common herb pill in China and i take it for my constipation. I usually take it together with my ginkgo pill after breakfast. It might have been 'psychological' but the sound has been coming down noticeably ever since I started taking it. And then I saw an ad over there on a herb pill which is related to this one above. It suggests that our kidney and spine are closely connected, and that people with kidney deficiency also suffers from a weak or compressed spine. Thus by strengthenign the kidney, it strengthen the spine as well...as goes the funny theory! This pill causes a bit of diahrea. Thus I don't follow the prescription of 3 times a day. I take just 'enough' in the breakfast. And I don't have to take it everyday. There is no med book that says every kind of med should be taken everyday in order to be effective. I just take it whenever I feel like it. That is all! > Hi Elly, > > Long time no hear! > > My tinnitus has become such that I have oftentimes forgotten it exists > at all. And this has NOTHING to do with 'habituation'. Actually, that's the definition of habituation. Susan Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in part: >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Susan Yep.  SignatureJim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG I oftentimes make a deliberate effort to listen to the sound. Frequently I don't find it or find it in very low volume. At times when I eat chilly food, it comes after sweating... I think that habituation refers to loud tinnitus that still exists but people have learnt to ignore it. On the other hand my tinnitus has gone down to less than 1 on a loudness scale. That is NOT habituation - but improvement. But these 2 are NOT the same thing. I don't know which version fypoon is referring to. Elly's Tinnitus Resources http://eebee.net/ >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Susan > I think that habituation refers to loud tinnitus that still exists but > people have learnt to ignore it. So has mine. But that's not what the O.P. said. Susan I am referring to a scenario in which you deliberately listen to your ear noise and it is either not there or there but very small in volume. if you could alter the volume of the t sound by stretching out your lower jaw, chances are you are suffering from somatic tinnitus or tinnitus related to muscle tension. when you explain this to the orthodox doctors they have no clue what you are talking about. use a chiro pillow and go for one chiro visit a week. if see experience some improvement, stick to it. tinnitus is a troublesome ill. it comes very suddenly but take a long time to get out. > How long must tinnitus perdure in order to be called "chronic"? I've > read 2 weeks on a site or six months+ in another. I'm a newbie myself - on my fifth month of wavering tinnitus - but because of my symptoms I don't consider myself chronic. My tinnitus fluctuates: some days non-existent, other days barely noticeable, and some days loud enough to be slightly irritating. It's been close to two months since it was at its peak loudness. I still cling to the hope that it's a temporary condition that may re-appear sporadically later in life, though never permanent (hope!). I would wait at lest six months before considering myself cronic. SignatureWilliam Porto http://www.privatesounds.net A blog about tinnitus and other things. If you subscribed to the thesis that tinnitus is a nerve ill, you should do something about it rather than allowing it to be prolonged any further. Once tinnitus gets old, it becomes harder to treat! I believe there are ways by which our nerve can be healed with the use of addictive drugs.
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