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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / September 2009Laser treatment
I sincerely hope that my laser treatment at Dr. Wilden in Germany will work. http://www.dr-wilden.de/en_info/32.html I am having 10 day treatment starting on Nov. 7. This T is driving me insane. Thought I had habituated a few months ago but it now seems worse than ever.... no idea why. AAAARRRGGGHHHH: Simon, Rijswijk, Holland. > I sincerely hope that my laser treatment at Dr. Wilden in Germany will > work. http://www.dr-wilden.de/en_info/32.html [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Simon, > Rijswijk, Holland. So do I... Good luck! And the more you believe in it, the more it will work - like any placebo. Quite honestly, you might as well buy a torch and a red filter and leave it shining in for an hour to have the same effect. Whole lot cheaper too. 1 watt of power = 1 joule of energy delivered per second. The total energy of your laser treatment is stated as 4000 joules over 3600 seconds, therefore is delivered at the rate of (4000/3600) watts ie. just over 1 watt. The bulb in my torch is rated at 2.2volts @ 0.47Amps = (2.2 x 0.47) or 1.03 watts or 1.03 joules per second. That's a pretty good match with the laser really, and although it does have a more diffuse spectrum, it is still rich in red light. Maybe laser treatment does work. But then so does torch treatment. Steve I usually discontinue any treatment if I don't experience an improvement after the second, and I would do that regardless of whatever studies have to say. I am not sure if there have been 'controlled' studies done on lazer treatment but their results should be irrelevant to you if you are not getting help from it. I would try other things else. The following is what I would recommend given the fact that your high=tech doctor in German has failed to be of help: (1)try to sleep without a pillow. The idea is to allow your body lie flat to have your head's blood circulation improved. (2)take a tablet of gingko biloba each morning empty stomached. Talk to a pharmacist about this. Never mind what the 'controlled' studies have to say on this. If you don't experience anything after 2 weeks, just drop it. But if you do, stick to it. (3)visit a chiropractor once a week to have your spine relaxed. See what will happen after a while. Simon, please report your experiences with this treatment in this group. I am also interested in this treatment. Best wishes, Hubert Simon Brightwell schrieb: > I sincerely hope that my laser treatment at Dr. Wilden in Germany will > work. http://www.dr-wilden.de/en_info/32.html [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Simon, > Rijswijk, Holland. good luck with the treatment. hope you won't "need" luck. > good luck with the treatment. hope you won't "need" luck. Many thanks indeed. Simon. > Many thanks indeed. What do they actually laser? Your ears, head? Puddle Your ears. http://www.dr-wilden.de/en_info/32.html Cheers, Simon. >> Many thanks indeed. > > What do they actually laser? Your ears, head? > > Puddle "Simon Brightwell" <simonb@euronet.nl> wrote in message > Your ears. > > http://www.dr-wilden.de/en_info/32.html Thanks Simon, but what if the noise is in the head? I am dubious about the noise being in the ears. Puddle On 11/5/05 1:19 PM, in article wl9bf.4751$fe6.3722@newsfe2-win.ntli.net, > "Simon Brightwell" <simonb@euronet.nl> wrote in message >> Your ears. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Puddle Only about 30% of patients with tinnitus in one study had it from the ear. >"Simon Brightwell" <simonb@euronet.nl> wrote in message >> Your ears. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Puddle Hi Puddle and everyone, I have had LLLT for 27 months now and are 85% recovered from a terrible hearing loss with major T and extreme hyperacusis. What the laser does is to support the body (in my case the hearing cells in the cochlea) by energizing the irridiated area so that the cells get the power to improve. The hearing cells is a specialized type of nerve cells and recover very slow. Hypothetically they can improve for 8-10 years. I was 65-70% improved after 1 year of laser treatment and now it is 85%. Other import things to know when T improves with the help of LLLT is that the initial reaction for about 90% of the patients is tha the T becomes a bit louder for a couple of weeks before it settles down and noticeable improvements take place. This is a good (even if unpleasant) biologic reaction that shows that the cells are becoming stronger and therefore has the power to send louder T. On shall also be aware that cheap lasers of only 5 mw strenght is of not much help to most t-victims. For long term home treatment (which is what I've mainly done) the light should be at least 30-35 mw in the red spectra or around 100 mw in the near infrared. This is then irridated for about 30 minutes 5 days/week If one has LLLT at at clinic the light should be far stronger as one has treatments for 10-20 days and then a break for 3-6 months. Some laser treaters charge for treating with lasers of "home laser type" but one should know that these, not very strong lasers, need to be used for months and months so, I recommend that you check out what the treater is using if you are interested in going to a clinic. About tinnitus "in the head": That is an unproven psychology based theory that I personally don't believe in. Being a sound engineer I am familiar to the fact that if one received the same sound in both ears when listening in headphones the sound will apperar to be "in trhe head". The same goes for tinnitus. I find Dr Lutz Wildens findings very logic and making sense. |
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