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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / August 2005Hyperbaric Oxygen Treatment
Hello everyone. Third post here, and I still don't kno if I have tinnitus or not, but the more I know the happier I'll be! Has anyone here had success with Hyperbaric Oxygen Treatment? I read in one of the earlier posts that it actually made things worse for at least one person, but unfortunately my ISP won't allow me to download any posts older than that one. It seems as though it would work in theory, as one of the theories I've heard behind the high-pitched ringing suffered in tinnitus is that the nerve-hairs actually bend and warp, sometimes falling over altogether, causing noise to be distorted and trapped within the ear. Whether or not that holds up to scientific scrutiny I don't rightly know, but if hyperbarix oxygen treatment straightens the hairs then it should, technically, work. > Hello everyone. Third post here, and I still don't kno if I have tinnitus > or [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > hyperbarix > oxygen treatment straightens the hairs then it should, technically, work. Read this: http://www.tinnitus.org/home/frame/Chapter6_pp220-222.pdf Scroll down a bit after the .pdf file loads. On 8/21/05 10:33 PM, in article LuGdnY3Bvcw-_pTeRVn-rg@onvoy.com, >> Hello everyone. Third post here, and I still don't kno if I have tinnitus >> or [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Scroll down a bit after the .pdf file loads. That discussion of hyperbaric is a bit misleading. Its not that Hyperbaric increases the blood flow, its that it increases the useable oxygen to the body. For example, when we do a tissue graft, the circulation may be poor, but in hyperbaric the grafted tissue gets plenty of oxygen and therefore heals better. In sudden neurosensory hearing loss the theory is that whatever the cause, getting O2 to the ear may save it. But hyperbaric is Not for increased circulatin. On 8/21/05 10:03 PM, in article Mdidncz2SLsqwZTeRVn-3g@rogers.com, "Tage" <tage@rogers.com> wrote: > Hello everyone. Third post here, and I still don't kno if I have tinnitus or > not, but the more I know the happier I'll be! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > that holds up to scientific scrutiny I don't rightly know, but if hyperbarix > oxygen treatment straightens the hairs then it should, technically, work. There have been publications from Germany re success in using Hyperbaric Oxygen but as far as I know its not being used here. I haven't recommended it because I don't think it is effective. On the other hand, it is an innocuous treatment and if you want to spend the bucks, you are welcome to try it. No, it won't make the T worse. >Hello everyone. Third post here, and I still don't kno if I have tinnitus or >not, but the more I know the happier I'll be! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >that holds up to scientific scrutiny I don't rightly know, but if hyperbarix >oxygen treatment straightens the hairs then it should, technically, work. http://eebee.net/TinnitusIsaPainintheNeck.shtml Elly's Tinnitus Resources http://eebee.net/ i have tried it. it helps the body absorb the blood vessel dilating medicine injected through intravenously. I had 3 hyperbaric oxygen sessions on my 5th week with tinnitus, and had to stop it because it made it worse (actually doubled it). I wish I have never considered it. But every T is different. After this, I went to another specialist in hyperbaric oxygen. He told me that hyperbaric oxygen is helpful in the case of hearing problems but not for tinnitus. He said that research was inconclusive so insurance companies were beginning not to pay for it in the case of tinnitus. In my case it was like the following: No change after the 1st session. A little decrease in T after the 2nd session. After the 3rd session I got up from my chair and I could swear that the HBO room was moving forth and back like a boat. In fact, I insisted that it was. I was okey after some rest back in my chair. They measured my blood pressure and it was fine. They told me that maybe I had some sudden decrease and increase in my blood pressure. My T was incredibly loud during that night. After 2 months, now, it is better. But it is much worse than what it used to be before the hyperbaric oxygen (HBO) sessions. Before the HBO, I heard my T only while I was alone in a quiet room and before just before sleep (if it was past 01.00 a.m. and the street was quiet). Now I hear it during the day and it is louder. However, I don't want to scare anyone. I know some people are treated with HBO. I had HBO because I didn't want to regret it (not doing it) later. If you start HBO, I would understand that very well. But if you feel that your T gets worse with HBO, just stop it. On 8/24/05 3:23 AM, in article 1124879005.501826.131510@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Eli" <elif.cicekli@gmail.com> wrote: > If you start HBO, I would understand that very well. But if you > feel that your T gets worse with HBO, just stop it. But if your T is worse, that's too late. Why not wait till there is an acceptable research that shows good results with HBO for Tinnitus first? I assure you I have looked into this and do not recommend it to my patients. Not only have I taken the course etc but I recently had 4 HBO treatments for myself that I self prescribed. I (unfortunately) had HBO as soon as possible, because I had read on the Internet that it is most effective when the T is young (less than 3 months), and that after 3 months, it would not be so helpful, and that after a year it would not have much effect, ...etc. I am not sure of the credibility of that research. I had HBO because I didn't want to think "I wish I had HBO before, maybe it could have made a difference when my T was still young." Anyway, I wouldn't recommend to people with Ts which they can hear only in a quite room etc. With any volume of T, you think it cannot be worse. Well, it does. In my case, I realized that a diet low in sodium (especially salt) and low in carbohydrate helps. I don't know the connection but sleeping early and getting up early (to be able to sleep early the next time) helps a lot as well. One of my friends told me that he cured his two-months-old T by exercising a lot (cardio exercise that makes you sweat a lot). That happened when he was quite young. This type of exercise may not be suitable for everyone. He also stopped watching tv and began socializing more. He also went on a holiday for a month without telling anyone where he went to and without his mobile. For more scientific information, please refer to: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/ELIF1/Local%20Settings/Temporary%20Internet%20Files/Content.IE5/PFZK68LN/256,1,Tinnitus A Clinical Update As far as I understand, this is a literature review of previous studies. There is a summary on the last page. According to this reasearch paper from a highly respected university, these are the conclusions: Probably Effective: Lidocaine, Benzodiazepines, Antidepressants, Electrical Stimulation, Enoxaparin, Dexamethasone Mixed Effects: TRT, Gentamicin, Muscle vibration Likely Not Effective: Acupuncture, Carbamazepine, Ginkgo Biloba, Gabapentin, Pulsed EM, HB O2, Meniett So it says, HBO (HB O2) is "likely not effective" On 8/25/05 3:04 AM, in article 1124964268.425370.12670@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Eli" <elif.cicekli@gmail.com> wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > So it says, HBO (HB O2) is "likely not effective" Unfortunately there is usually a mix up between hearing loss treatment and tinnitus treatment. Often they are the same - sudden hearing loss is accompanied by tinnitus. But when you speak of Tinnitus treatment it is best not to mix the two. For example dexamethasone is used for sudden hearing loss but not as a treatment for T. On 8/25/05 3:04 AM, in article 1124964268.425370.12670@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Eli" <elif.cicekli@gmail.com> wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > So it says, HBO (HB O2) is "likely not effective" Also mixed up in this report is treatment for Meniere's which may not be the same as treatment for tinnitus. Of course Meniere's is accompanied by tinnitus often, the the treatments are different for "straight" tinnitus.
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