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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / August 2005Prescribed Aspirin!
Yeah, great medical advice for a tinnitus sufferer. Just diagnosed Diabetic and am overweight. Yesterday was my first encounter with a Glucose Meter, the nurse gave a demonstration of my new friend. Then she gave me a prescription for Aspirin. I almost flipped, stayed calm.....ok, kind of used to the medical professionals. *&?(*.............. man! I informed her that Aspirin is poison for T sufferers. Still she went on to say it's a baby dosage as a precaution for people who are in the target group for cardiac problems. Anyways. Bye. Robert Dion Fact: high doses of aspirin cause tinnitus sometimes for some people Fact: tinnitus sometimes is a freebie bonus feature for diabetes Fact: baby doses of aspirin usually are tinnitus-safe Fact: sometimes aspirin actually reduces tinnitus for some people "I informed her that Aspirin is poison for T sufferers" Now is when you need the doctor to be on your side and try to get this diabetes under control. Maybe in so doing you'll be able to reduce, or kick, your tinnitus. I wouldn't worry myself into a great deal of anxiety about the asiprin when there appears to be a solid medical reason for you needing it. The diabetic thing is probably worrying you a great deal and me thinks you have a lot of things on your mind - I'd say this is not a good time to dismiss your faith in the medical profession. You could even consider that since you have tinnitus already then how would/could a baby aspirin make any difference... Why not go with the flow, you'll be under a lot less stress, and see what happens. Bart. P.S. just incase you're taking ginkho, make sure your doc knows about that. Fact: Bart's facts are correct :-) > Fact: high doses of aspirin cause tinnitus sometimes for some people > Fact: tinnitus sometimes is a freebie bonus feature for diabetes > Fact: baby doses of aspirin usually are tinnitus-safe > Fact: sometimes aspirin actually reduces tinnitus for some people "PaulS" <gatorz@bellsouth.net> wrote in part: >Fact: Bart's facts are correct :-) > >> Fact: high doses of aspirin cause tinnitus sometimes for some people >> Fact: tinnitus sometimes is a freebie bonus feature for diabetes >> Fact: baby doses of aspirin usually are tinnitus-safe >> Fact: sometimes aspirin actually reduces tinnitus for some people Paul is correct also.  SignatureJim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG > "PaulS" <gatorz@bellsouth.net> wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Paul is correct also. In fact, Jim, Paul and Bart are all correct. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Susan While Jim, Paul, and Bart are correct, unfortunately, Susan is wrong. SignatureHNG A Zen Thought: He who laughs last didn't get the joke. Howard N. Gutnick, Ph.D. Body Pride Personal Training BodyPride@cox.net www.BodyPrideOnline.com 757 496-3270 Home 757 630-9208 Mobile > While Jim, Paul, and Bart are correct, unfortunately, Susan is wrong. My head hurts.... Paul > > While Jim, Paul, and Bart are correct, unfortunately, Susan is wrong. > > My head hurts.... > > Paul Take an aspirin. frank drfrank21@gmail.com wrote in part: >> > While Jim, Paul, and Bart are correct, unfortunately, Susan is wrong. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >frank He can't. He has tinnitus. SignatureJim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG I think it was sarcasm humour there Jim > drfrank21@gmail.com wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > He can't. He has tinnitus. > > x-no-archive: yes > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > -- And Francis,even if he doesn't respond,is more wronger than Susan. frank Let me tell you what is right. What is right is what Robert feels is right. Too abstract to comprehend, dr? fyfpoon@gmail.com wrote in part: >Let me tell you what is right. What is right is what Robert feels is >right. Too abstract to comprehend, dr? You were right, drfrank. SignatureJim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG I haven't been correct about a lot of things these days so it could easily be that you're all wrong about me being right... Somebody better start disagreeing like we're supposed to on this group cause if this thread gets any longer I can hear the choir already "I'd like the world to sing a song..." > I haven't been correct about a lot of things these days so it could > easily be that you're all wrong about me being right... Somebody better > start disagreeing like we're supposed to on this group cause if this > thread gets any longer I can hear the choir already "I'd like the > world to sing a song..." Uh, Bart, now you *are* wrong. It's "I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmoneeeeeee..." Susan Yeah, there you go!!! My picking buddies keep bugging me to sing at jam sessions and this illustrates why I don't - I suck at memorizing lyrics :) Since were all here, wanna add a couple of bars of Alice's Restaurant... :))) Music, what a delicious coping strategy isn't it... Anyway - Robert, really glad to read that you're feeling better. Yup, every now and then a bummer situation comes up, don't it. Then again, you run into days like that whether T is or isn't in the picture. Just make sure you keep focussing on common sense and try to keep a cool head when reason is under attack from far out feelings. When you've been around as long as you have on this group you should know by now that tinnitus cannot harm you - sometimes it isn't easy to remember that so when in doubt, repeat it to yourself. Feel free to drop me a private email if you want to yack, or just to unload. And Susan, thanks for the correction. Whether you like Coke or not, that really was a great song wasn't it. Going to see now if I can find them notes on my banjo, never really tried to play that one so there's my challenge for tonight :) Hey Paul, did you listen to that mp3 yet? Bart. ***may your moments of need be met by moments of compassion*** Do you have tea and toast with your jam sessions too? .....excepting Alice > Yeah, there you go!!! My picking buddies keep bugging me to sing at > jam sessions and this illustrates why I don't - I suck at memorizing > lyrics :) > Do you have tea and toast with your jam sessions too? nope but the jam, strawberry of course, goes great with the beers > .....excepting Alice as in: da da da, you can get anything you want...? Bart. You treat tinnitus the same as you do an illness. You eliminate all the treatable factors - certain drugs, hypertension, cerumen , cervical dysfunctin, fluid excess, TMJ, - whatever is out of synch. Where there are blood cholesterol or deficiencies you correct them too. Unfortunately I see patients who have been through all the previous suggested treatments mentioned in the last 50 e mails and are taking all the suggested medications and yet their tinnitus is simply elevated blood pressure or impacted cerumen or elevated lipids or some obvious problem that bears correction. Look, if bad gum disease can cause a heart attack, shows to go you that you need to look at the body as a whole. >You treat tinnitus the same as you do an illness. You eliminate all the >treatable factors - certain drugs, hypertension, cerumen , cervical [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Look, if bad gum disease can cause a heart attack, shows to go you that you >need to look at the body as a whole. Then why do most doctors not do that? They look in your ear - see nothing wrong - and send you on your way. Elly's Tinnitus Resources http://eebee.net/ > While Jim, Paul, and Bart are correct, unfortunately, Susan is wrong. <*snort*> Yeah, like *that* could happen! Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Susan Now you went & done it.......You're wrong ! SignatureA Zen Thought: Save the whales. Collect the whole set. HNG Howard N. Gutnick, Ph.D. Body Pride Personal Training BodyPride@cox.net www.BodyPrideOnline.com 757 496-3270 Home 757 630-9208 Mobile > >> x-no-archive: yes [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Now you went & done it.......You're wrong ! No, I now have to agree with Susan and disagree with you Bart. Susan is correct when she states that she is never wrong about being incorrect about being wrong. Francis, wouldn't you agree that Susan's western yin has been yanged out of it's longitude by her uncompensated and undiagnosed spleenitis, which imbalances her frenus to overproduce biliferous tympology? SignatureHNG A Zen Thought: Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm. Howard N. Gutnick, Ph.D. Body Pride Personal Training BodyPride@cox.net www.BodyPrideOnline.com 757 496-3270 Home 757 630-9208 Mobile I thought I was wrong once. I was wrong though. > >> x-no-archive: yes > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > it's longitude by her uncompensated and undiagnosed spleenitis, which > imbalances her frenus to overproduce biliferous tympology? Like you said Bart, I've got a lod on my mind right now. It's enough that I had to go back to the clinic to change a prescription. The Altace they give me temporarily worsened my T, so now I take Atacand. But you know I've been pretty much stressed out since a couple of weeks now, so who's to say that my T worsened because of the Altace. Concerning my beef with the medical profession, I must say that some are sympathetic, while others just don't give a crap. Like an ENT once said to me when I told him I had T: if it gets too loud, read a book!!!!!!!! Yes thre is a sensible explanation for the Aspirin prescription but I am doing a huge effort in changing my eating habits, plus the Atacand prescription helps for hypertension. I'll see Thanks Bart Robert Dion >Fact: high doses of aspirin cause tinnitus sometimes for some people >Fact: tinnitus sometimes is a freebie bonus feature for diabetes [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >P.S. just incase you're taking ginkho, make sure your doc knows about >that. On 8/10/05 6:59 PM, in article drblf1th5vujkvheeodi2vb32jh2ad253p@4ax.com, > Yes thre is a sensible explanation for the Aspirin prescription but I am doing > a huge > effort in changing my eating habits, plus the Atacand prescription helps for > hypertension. > I'll see The degree to which some persons disapprove of the healing profession is in direct proportion to how often they neglect to follow doctor's recommendation. Bad doctor. After one day of a week's prescription I felt no better so I stopped it. Bad doctor. He claimed I didn't get well because I continued to smoke 4 packs a day. Bad doctor. He insisted every time he saw me to change my diet, lose weight. Stop all the foods that make life worth living - french fries, ice cream, etc Bad doctor. He prescribed for me, but I went on the internet and they advised me not to take it. Need more?? Of course you're right, I Have been neglecting my health. All I'm saying is that when I got T in 1997, eight ENTs each gave me a different diagnosis. Plus, I had to visit the emergency ward, I felt lost and had a severe panic attack. The doctor on duty sent me to the Psychiatric department. I never forgot this. A week later I attempted suicide. When I mention Tinnitus to the doctors they either just nod their heads or they don't.. Only one MD took time to ask me questions like: how loud is it, describe your T, what have you done about it, are you depressed, etc. Unfortunately for me he retired. Anyways, I know what you're saying. It's that it just frustrating, Thank you Murray Robert Dion >On 8/10/05 6:59 PM, in article drblf1th5vujkvheeodi2vb32jh2ad253p@4ax.com, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Need more?? On 8/10/05 8:16 AM, in article 1123686960.275031.296680@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Bart V" <banjo@haruteq.com> wrote: > Fact: high doses of aspirin cause tinnitus sometimes for some people > Fact: tinnitus sometimes is a freebie bonus feature for diabetes [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > P.S. just incase you're taking ginkho, make sure your doc knows about > that. The scientific evidence is that a small dose of aspirin will not cause or negatgively affect Tinnitus. It takes a large dose to cause or agrevate tinnitus. > On 8/10/05 8:16 AM, in article > > The scientific evidence is that a small dose of aspirin will not cause or > negatgively affect Tinnitus. It takes a large dose to cause or agrevate > tinnitus. And I was on a ¼ tablet of Aspirin a day for several months, intended to be a safer substitute for Gingko Biloba. It did seem to help though I've now become so careless about my tinnitus I'm can't be bothered to take it any more... Steve > Yeah, great medical advice for a tinnitus sufferer. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I informed her that Aspirin is poison for T sufferers. Still she went on to > say it's a baby dosage as a precaution for people who are in the target group for cardiac problems. The *truth* is how _you_ as a patient feel. You could discontinue it and then observe, and then put it back and observe. Oftentimes people are confused between a 'correlational' and a 'causal' relationship. If you discontinue the aspirin and your perceived tinnitus is gone, and your t comes back after you put back your aspirin, then that aspirin, no matter whether it is baby or adult aspirin, is the culprit of your tinnitus. And this will hold true regardless of whatever 'studies' say. Talk to your doctor if you could replace your 'baby' aspirin with a 'baby' gingko biloba. After all, the purpose is trying to achieve blood thinning. FP > Anyways. > > Bye. > Robert Dion Right? This newsgroup brings me back to 1997 when I didn't know where to go or ask for help when I first got Tinnitus. I remember getting advice from Susan and Jim. Just to let you know. This newsgroup literally saved my life in 1997, I contemplated suicide then, it's your replies to my cries for help(something that most health care professionnals turned their back on) that made me go on. Anyways. Thanks all, you guys are great!! Robert Dion >> Yeah, great medical advice for a tinnitus sufferer. >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> Bye. >> Robert Dion |
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