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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / August 2005

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Ben - 09 Aug 2005 19:29 GMT
On September the 1st I am to to attend the Tinnitus Clinic at my local
hospital.  The appointment is one hour long.  Can anyone point me to any
scientific research which I could print out to support Elly's idea of T
being muscular-related in many cases, please?   I am having visions of
sitting there trying my hardest to make anyone understand that my T goes
quiet when I lie down on my left side, without them thinking I am barmy, and
simply coming home with some crap maskers.  I thought if I have some
scientific research to back up my belief that my T is muscular-related, it
might help. I would add that as I do have some hearing loss at high pitch I
wouldn't expect physio (or any other similar treatment) to "cure" my T, but
that it might help.

Thank you.

Ben
drfrank21@gmail.com - 10 Aug 2005 02:01 GMT
> On September the 1st I am to to attend the Tinnitus Clinic at my local
> hospital.  The appointment is one hour long.  Can anyone point me to any
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>
> Ben

Ben, I'm sure Elly's site has a ton of information and she's
the one who could help you out the most. But I think
there's a dearth of actual scientific study and research regarding
muscular-related tinnitus. If you are indeed convinced that your
T is due to this cause, going to a chiro or pt versed in T
would be a much better avenue. I don't think a medical based
tinnitus clinic will offer much help for you but I'd be very
interested to see what they come up for you. Just don't
expect a cure.

If you get relief from lying on your left side (many people
would kill to get silence from something as simple as this)
sleeping should not be a problem. Not downplaying your
problem but....................

frank
Ben - 10 Aug 2005 08:31 GMT
> Ben, I'm sure Elly's site has a ton of information and she's
> the one who could help you out the most. But I think
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> interested to see what they come up for you. Just don't
> expect a cure.

Thanks Frank, and I will let you know what happens during my hour at the
Clinic.  I know of Elly's site, but was just interested if there were any
papers written that I could print out and take with me - in other words, I
was being lazy and thinking I needn't search the web because someone on here
would know of some! :)

> If you get relief from lying on your left side (many people
> would kill to get silence from something as simple as this)
> sleeping should not be a problem. Not downplaying your
> problem but....................

Yes, indeed, sleeping is absolutely NO problem to me and never has been, for
which I am eternally grateful.  However, if my T is as noisy as it was
yesterday, it can be a bit difficult to lie down all day to get relief!  If
I get up, the T starts raging again :(  Sleeping too much can get a bit
boring too.  Because my T goes quiet when I lie on my left side, I lie there
in amazement, enjoy the peace for all of 5 minutes, then immediately drop
off to sleep, probably due to exhaustion as well as enjoying the peace.  I
have tried it when I wake up in the morning, and got it to go quiet, but
then got up, and the T "gets up" with me - pah!

Ben
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 11 Aug 2005 01:47 GMT
> > Ben, I'm sure Elly's site has a ton of information and she's
> > the one who could help you out the most. But I think
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> have tried it when I wake up in the morning, and got it to go quiet, but
> then got up, and the T "gets up" with me - pah!

Do you think the problem has something to do with the blood circulation
in your head?  When you lie down, blood flows into your head more
easily without having to overcome so much gravity associated with your
getting up.

How about talk to your doc about applying blood vessel dilating
medicine?  This practice is quite commonly used in all the hospitals in
China.  The doctors there learn this practice from the European ones.
However, I do notice that in Hong Kong, which uses an UK medical
system, this sort of practice is seldom used for that purpose.
> Ben
Elly Byrne - 10 Aug 2005 21:28 GMT
>But I think
>there's a dearth of actual scientific study and research regarding
>muscular-related tinnitus.

There is a dearth because no one has actually looked into that area.
Most research is stuck in the brain.

Only one person as far as I know has even considered the fact that T
is influenced by jaw movements, but has not followed this up with
anything useful.

http://epl.harvard.edu/~ral/

Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/
Ingenuous - 10 Aug 2005 22:11 GMT
> There is a dearth because no one has actually looked into that area.
> Most research is stuck in the brain.
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>
> http://epl.harvard.edu/~ral/

Elly, lots of the regulars here have commented about the change in their
tinnitus with jaw movement.  Mine changes when I open my mouth wide and move
my jaw from side-to-side.  I have a perfect bite and there are no problems
with my my jaw alignment.

My tinnitus also sounds different when I gently plug my ears with my
fingers.  I'm certain this is because my finger tips block ambient masking
noise.  Could it be that moving one's jaw flexes the ear canal also altering
ambient masking noise?  Makes perfect sense to me.
Elly Byrne - 11 Aug 2005 21:07 GMT
>> There is a dearth because no one has actually looked into that area.
>> Most research is stuck in the brain.
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>noise.  Could it be that moving one's jaw flexes the ear canal also altering
>ambient masking noise?  Makes perfect sense to me.

I know that. There is lots of anecdotal evidensce.

But the medical people want documented studies by medically accepted
researchers. These kind of studies do not exist.

Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/
 
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