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Tinnitus: A Clinical Update

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Elif - 17 Jul 2005 11:33 GMT
I've found the link below quite useful. The last page includes a
concise summary. It is on the web site of a reliable source (the
Department of Otolaryngology at the University of Miami School of
Medicine). It is also quite recent (February 2005).

http://otolaryngology.med.miami.edu/grandrounds/Tinnitus.ppt
Nelson Wallace - 17 Jul 2005 15:56 GMT
Wow!  This is really interesting stuff.
Thanks.
A little web work got this:
The Use of Sodium Enoxaparin in the Treatment of Tinnitus
Renzo Mora, Angelo Salami, Marco Barbieri, Francesco Mora, Giulio Cesare
Passali, Saverio Capobianco, and Jacques Magnan
Ear, Nose, and Throat Department, University of Genoa, Genoa, Italy

Abstract:
Tinnitus is a pathological event caused by abnormal stimulation of any point
along the acoustic pathway. Generally, it produces a sharp tone accompanied
by hearing impairment. Currently, no widely used standard protocol for
treatment of this condition exists, and vascular microthrombotic factors are
considered as the main determinants. Prompted by such observations, we
implemented a protocol using an anticoagulant, sodium enoxaparin. It is a
kind of heparin with a low molecular weight and is endowed with
antithrombotic activity. We studied 40 patients (ages 20-65 years) who had
been experiencing tinnitus for at least 2 months. We divided patients into
two groups: To the first group, enoxaparin was administered for 10 days; the
patients in the second group were treated with traditional therapy
(corticosteroids, vasoactive agents, multivitamins, and anticoagulants). At
the beginning and at the end of the therapy period, the patients were
evaluated by instrumental examinations. All patients treated with
anticoagulant therapy have shown an evident abatement of their tinnitus
symptom. No patient experienced side effects from this treatment. The
results indicate that administration of sodium enoxaparin is an excellent
mode of therapy for patients with tinnitus.

Key Words:
microthrombotic factors; sodium enoxaparin; tinnitus

> I've found the link below quite useful. The last page includes a
> concise summary. It is on the web site of a reliable source (the
> Department of Otolaryngology at the University of Miami School of
> Medicine). It is also quite recent (February 2005).
>
> http://otolaryngology.med.miami.edu/grandrounds/Tinnitus.ppt
fyfpoon@gmail.com - 18 Jul 2005 18:56 GMT
> Wow!  This is really interesting stuff.
> Thanks.
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> results indicate that administration of sodium enoxaparin is an excellent
> mode of therapy for patients with tinnitus.

Do you know how this medicine or solution is applied?

Tks
====================
> Key Words:
> microthrombotic factors; sodium enoxaparin; tinnitus
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> >
> > http://otolaryngology.med.miami.edu/grandrounds/Tinnitus.ppt
alfred - 18 Jul 2005 22:12 GMT
That's near where I live...relatively.
alfred - 18 Jul 2005 22:13 GMT
That's near where I live...relatively.
alfred - 18 Jul 2005 22:13 GMT
That's near where I live...relatively.
PaulS - 20 Jul 2005 21:31 GMT
> Wow!  This is really interesting stuff.
> Thanks.
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>The results indicate that administration of sodium enoxaparin is an
>excellent mode of therapy for patients with tinnitus.

Enoxaparin is a form of heparin - a potent anticoagulant. Personally I
consider their statement, "No patient experienced side effects from this
treatment. The results indicate that administration of sodium enoxaparin is
an excellent mode of therapy for patients with tinnitus" irresponsible - and
I doubt the "no side effects" claim. Wait until one of the patients nicks
themselves, bangs their head, etc.

PaulS
P T - 21 Jul 2005 05:06 GMT
Paul S wrote
"...I consider their statement, "No patient experienced side effects
.." irresponsible - and I doubt the "no side effects" claim. Wait until
one of the patients nicks themselves, bangs their head, etc."

I disagree. Using anticoagulants does not mean you will exsanguinate
from a paper cut.  Many people take them, and Enoxaparin is an
increasingly common medicine.  Like many drugs, if misused,
anticoagulants can be fatal.  To the person who asked, Enoxapin is
injected, not sure if it's SQ or IM.  The two biggest problems with it
are that it is injected, and since it is injected and new, you'd better
have a fat wallet or good insurance for a 10 day course of therapy.

NOW, if you want to call someone irresponsible, how about the people in
the other thread extolling the virtues of pharmaceutical "goodies" and
Xanax. Habit forming substances like benzodiazepines have done a lot of
harm: probably more harm than anticoagulants, and probably less good.

Sorry Paul, I disagree with you. If you have evidence to the contrary,
I'd love to hear it, but I suspect you speak as a cautious layman, not
necessarily a bad thing.

Pete
Susan - 21 Jul 2005 15:43 GMT
> I disagree. Using anticoagulants does not mean you will exsanguinate
> from a paper cut.  Many people take them, and Enoxaparin is an
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> I'd love to hear it, but I suspect you speak as a cautious layman, not
> necessarily a bad thing.

I think the fact is that all drugs, both rx and non rx should be
approached with caution and consideration of risk/benefit.  It's not
that one is better than the other.

Susan
drfrank21@gmail.com - 21 Jul 2005 20:33 GMT
> I think the fact is that all drugs, both rx and non rx should be
> approached with caution and consideration of risk/benefit.  It's not
> that one is better than the other.
>
> Susan

Well said. It's all about risk/benefit. Benzo's for some people
can be a literal life saver not only for those with tinnitus.

frank
PaulS - 21 Jul 2005 21:58 GMT
> Sorry Paul, I disagree with you. If you have evidence to the contrary,
> I'd love to hear it, but I suspect you speak as a cautious layman, not
> necessarily a bad thing.

Hi Pete,

The issue is not taking the drug, but rather the cavalier manner in which
the authors' summarized without a single notation of risk. That is
irresponsible because there is a risk that must be balanced with the
condition. When the drug is currently administered it is weighed against the
potential of blood clots, etc. (all life threatening). To imply the drug can
be taken with no side effects discounts the warnings well-known about
heparin administration (which would constitute the "evidence to the
contrary").

PaulS
GG - 23 Feb 2006 20:16 GMT
>I've found the link below quite useful. The last page includes a
>concise summary. It is on the web site of a reliable source (the
>Department of Otolaryngology at the University of Miami School of
>Medicine). It is also quite recent (February 2005).
>
>http://otolaryngology.med.miami.edu/grandrounds/Tinnitus.ppt

Dr. Telischi is one of the foremost Otolaryngolist around. He was
recommended to me to do my stapes surgery and I couldn't have been
happier. Even though my hearing is back to normal I still have some
problems with T.

If you had the opportunity to make an appointment to see him, he's
very caring and he takes Blue Cross.

best of luck

GG
 
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