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Tom Sharples - 16 Jun 2005 07:48 GMT
Give up eating any foods that require chewing for a week or two. This means
a diet of soup, cream of wheat, etc. Boring... but together with vitamins
it's  had a remarkable effect in reducing my high-pitched ringing tinnitus
to a very tolerable low level that I can just barely hear during the day. Of
course if I ever want to eat steak or salad again I'll have to get the
underlying tmd / bruxism problems dealt with,  but meanwhile this has been
very effective.

Tom Sharples

"Murray Grossan" <hydromed@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:BED443B4.356D%hydromed@adelphia.net...
> On 6/13/05 1:12 PM, in article t2qra1l4htgdh7ohhnctv2i37ik44p0ia9@4ax.com,
> "Elly Byrne" <elly@eebee.net.noway> wrote:
>
>> Why has this never been mentioned by people who have connection with
>> the  ATA?
>> When was this study done?
> Actually Dr Morgan and I lectured on this subject in a seminar back in the
> 80's .
Skycloud - 16 Jun 2005 20:08 GMT
> Give up eating any foods that require chewing for a week or two. This means
> a diet of soup, cream of wheat, etc. Boring... but together with vitamins
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>
> Tom Sharples

Hmm interesting... Yesterday I ate some chocolate which was hard from the
fridge and was tough to chew. I noticed how my tinnitus would increase every
time I tried to bite into the chocolate.  Maybe the trick is to avoid
anything that aggravates the T.  I'm already wearing a tooth guard at night
for bruxism.

We all seem to have our preferred measures.  I've had quite good success
with taking these:

1) Take one eighth of an aspirin a day. Talk about a cheap drug
treatment...a single tablet lasts a week!  But I have proved to myself this
makes a difference.

2) Leave a 'blue noise' (high frequency filtered white noise) generator
quietly playing by my bed all night. This almost completely removes the
tinnitus which otherwise would be at its worst then. I think playing a noise
like this also must help with the habituation process.

As a result of the above, tinnitus rarely now troubles me during the day.
But whenever it does, I simply wear a little device I made, tuned to amplify
only the 'tinnitus band', and which therefore replaces the T with sounds
from the outside world.

The knowledge I have ways to control my tinnitus is very important. Since I
know I'm in control, I can relax about it and it therefore the T becomes
less of an issue.  Indeed it's now just an interesting curiosity for me.

Steve
Larry Lix - 17 Jun 2005 00:20 GMT
You probably have Bruxism because of a cranial misalignment. This is an
attempt to "straighten" out your lower and upper mandibles so they fit
together properly.

Get a cranial alignment from a specially trained massage therapist or
chiropractor. Not many of them do it. It only feels like a head massage for
an hour. I know many that have benefited from it and TMJ disappeared. Or go
to an oral surgeon, get your jaw broken and wired into the position it
should be. Only takes a few years.

> > Give up eating any foods that require chewing for a week or two. This
> means
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>
> Steve
Skycloud - 17 Jun 2005 09:34 GMT
> You probably have Bruxism because of a cranial misalignment. This is an
> attempt to "straighten" out your lower and upper mandibles so they fit
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> to an oral surgeon, get your jaw broken and wired into the position it
> should be. Only takes a few years.

Thanks for the tips Larry.  Think I'll pass up the broken jaw route for now
though p'raps it might be more cost effective to trawl a rough part of town
on a Saturday night for this? ;-)   I'm a bit wary of chiropractors now
because it was one (or rather his neck massaging person) that _caused_ my
tinnitus (though I know this is unusual).  When I went back to them 'under
guarantee' they offered a cranial alignment to put it right but I just
didn't trust them.

Steve
Larry Lix - 18 Jun 2005 04:33 GMT
This is very rare to find a chiro doing cranial alignments. I have
experienced very good results with it once. I have never know anybody else
having this done. However,  I know of many people having massage therapists
do it for TMJ and it resolved it miraculously for them afetr the dentists
threatened years of recovery from an operation and drinking soup for months.
LOL

> > You probably have Bruxism because of a cranial misalignment. This is an
> > attempt to "straighten" out your lower and upper mandibles so they fit
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>
> Steve
Murray Grossan - 17 Jun 2005 17:10 GMT
On 6/16/05 12:08 PM, in article 3he11oFgjij9U1@individual.net, "Skycloud"
<me@privacy.com> wrote:

> 1) Take one eighth of an aspirin a day. Talk about a cheap drug
> treatment...a single tablet lasts a week!  But I have proved to myself this
> makes a difference.

Its an extremely strange situation. For some reason we don't understand,
some T patients can take small doses of aspirin and improve. Hard to say why
this happens but it has been reported.
Larry Lix - 18 Jun 2005 04:33 GMT
Homeopathic methodology.

> On 6/16/05 12:08 PM, in article 3he11oFgjij9U1@individual.net, "Skycloud"
> <me@privacy.com> wrote:
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> some T patients can take small doses of aspirin and improve. Hard to say why
> this happens but it has been reported.
Jim Chinnis - 18 Jun 2005 05:22 GMT
Murray Grossan <hydromed@adelphia.net> wrote in part:

>On 6/16/05 12:08 PM, in article 3he11oFgjij9U1@individual.net, "Skycloud"
><me@privacy.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>some T patients can take small doses of aspirin and improve. Hard to say why
>this happens but it has been reported.

I thought this was because of unusual outer hair cell emissions,
which the aspirin appears to stop.
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Murray Grossan - 18 Jun 2005 05:42 GMT
On 6/17/05 9:22 PM, in article 9987b19m0phoutk0f8op2uc0a1bp9okkh6@4ax.com,

> I thought this was because of unusual outer hair cell emissions,
> which the aspirin appears to stop.

Yes, Jim, that is one theory. However I have searched hundreds of T patients
and never found outer hair cell increased emissions to correlate with T.
Even more frustrating, some patients the non T ear showed excess emissions
and the T ear showed normal.  Actually I have given up measuring spontaneous
emissions for T and so have most examiners.
Yet, there are patients who are improved with Aspirin. Boy, if we only knew
how to dx them!
That's like which patient is going to improve with proper B12, etc That's
why I put all the known good ones into the Ear.aid.
Brian K - 19 Jun 2005 02:59 GMT
> 2) Leave a 'blue noise' (high frequency filtered white noise) generator
> quietly playing by my bed all night.

What type or brand name of appliance do you use to produce 'blue
noise'?
Staff - 19 Jun 2005 04:06 GMT
>> 2) Leave a 'blue noise' (high frequency filtered white noise) generator
>> quietly playing by my bed all night.
>
> What type or brand name of appliance do you use to produce 'blue
> noise'?

Color organ?
Skycloud - 19 Jun 2005 12:57 GMT
> >> 2) Leave a 'blue noise' (high frequency filtered white noise) generator
> >> quietly playing by my bed all night.
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> >
> Color organ?

Haha.. I actually made a sort of 'colour organ' back in 1967 when I was 17.
It translated music into flashing coloured blobs on a ground-glass screen.

The 'blue noise' I use is provided by this device.
www.radiocraft.co.uk/detin_super.gif

Download the circuit free. Build-it-at-home.

But I think there surely must be .wav files of 'blue noise' or 'violet
noise' out there somewhere on the internet.

Oh and while I'm flogging my products, try this one for size:
www.copycoder.com   So far it's cost me a fortune and flopped.  It sure
could do with some customers... ;-)

Cheers,

Steve
www.detinnitiser.com
Brian K - 22 Jun 2005 16:18 GMT
> > >> 2) Leave a 'blue noise' (high frequency filtered white noise) generator
> > >> quietly playing by my bed all night.
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>
> Download the circuit free. Build-it-at-home.

That looks kinda complicated. I haven't done much of that sort of thing
since high school shop. The best 'white noise' producer I've come
across so far, is my really old little B&W TV tuned at the far end of
UHF. Gives a nice steady strong masker all night long. Funny thing is,
I started using this years before my T started to filter out outside
disturbances; ambulances, train horns, car alarms, etc. Now it serves a
duel purpose. I've looked around for something just as efficient, but
new and more sophisticated, and so far I haven't come across anything
that does the job as well. I suppose I could find a way to run speakers
from my pc to my bedroom, but that too would be quite a project. Anyone
wanting to try the TV method; you will need an old tube style TV. Newer
models will simply go to blue screen and not produce any sound.
Skycloud - 22 Jun 2005 18:04 GMT
> > > >> 2) Leave a 'blue noise' (high frequency filtered white noise) generator
> > > >> quietly playing by my bed all night.
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> wanting to try the TV method; you will need an old tube style TV. Newer
> models will simply go to blue screen and not produce any sound.

Yep the tv's a good method. Though it isn't _white_ noise that works for me,
but so-called  _blue_ noise (a sort of thin sounding white noise with all
the lower tones removed). And _pink_ noise (the opposite of _blue_ noise,
ie. white noise with the upper tones missing, like that coming from my
workshop fan in this 30 degree heat) actually makes my T worse.

White noise sounds fine for you, but if you do want to try blue noise, try
plugging an earphone or headphones into your old TV (if there's an audio
socket). DON'T put the phones on. Just leave them lying on the table, then
turn the tv sound up so you can clearly hear the headphone hiss from a
distance.  That will be blue noise.  I find it really cuts into my tinnitus.

S
Elly Byrne - 22 Jun 2005 21:33 GMT
Tinnitus Masker Pro generates White, Pink, Brown , Purple and Blue
noise. You can mix and match combinations and record the output
straight to a wav or mp3 file, ready to create your own custom white
noise masking CDs or cassettes to listen to anywhere

http://www.relaxingsoftware.com/tinmaskerhome.htm

Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/
Larry Lix - 23 Jun 2005 03:10 GMT
I find the Radio Scrap nature sound maker just right for me when needed. It
makes some cool soothing nature sounds, has a big volume control and shuts
off on a timer automatically.

I think it only costs about $30 and the batteries last years.

> Tinnitus Masker Pro generates White, Pink, Brown , Purple and Blue
> noise. You can mix and match combinations and record the output
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> Elly's Tinnitus Resources
> http://eebee.net/

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