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Drinking and Tinnitus

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William - 05 Jun 2005 03:40 GMT
Alcohol dimminshes my Tinnitus significantly, although there would be
the troublesome aspects of living drunk.

My experience indicates this is not a lack of perception when drinking,
the volume truly is lowered.

I'm new to Tinnitus and so thoughts please.  

William
Larry Lix - 05 Jun 2005 05:15 GMT
Alcohol is the best anti-anxiety medication known to the medical field
(Think liquid courage).

Lowering anxiety and thus lowering your stress level makes any ills and
chills much better.

> Alcohol dimminshes my Tinnitus significantly, although there would be
> the troublesome aspects of living drunk.
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> William
William - 05 Jun 2005 05:42 GMT
Larry, what you say regarding alcohol is true regarding anti-anxiety,
thank goodness for that, but stress in my occupation is high, stress in
my life is high.

Tinnitus came on suddenly and like a faucet always turned on, it does
not stop.  In other words, I didn't suddenly have an increase in stress
that caused this, which is suddenly quelled by alcohol.

Alcohol does significantly diminish.  It is not a matter of ills and
chills being made better.

William

> Alcohol is the best anti-anxiety medication known to the medical field
> (Think liquid courage).
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Larry Lix - 05 Jun 2005 14:51 GMT
Alcohol may be the best but it is temporary and not a good end.

There are many other ways to reduce stress without chemicals.

Things like tinnitus may seem to come on suddenly but it is probably the
gradual breakdown of systems in your body somehow or somewhere. It is not
understood at this time. You may never get rid of your tinnitus but you will
learn to ignore it and it may reduce later and also when you learn to ignore
it.

Many other people here should advice you about getting oood and proper
medical help ASAP to eleiminate the nastier possibilities and sometimes to
"cure" it early.

Just remember tinnitus can't hurt you, only you can hurt you from tinnitus.
It's like this. If somebody insults you and you didn't hear them you suffer
none. Only if you listen and get all bent out of shape does it make you
suffer.

Best of luck. Keep talking

> Larry, what you say regarding alcohol is true regarding anti-anxiety,
> thank goodness for that, but stress in my occupation is high, stress in
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Elly Byrne - 05 Jun 2005 21:18 GMT
Muscles become relaxed.
http://eebee.net/TinnitusIsaPainintheNeck.shtml

Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/

>Alcohol dimminshes my Tinnitus significantly, although there would be
>the troublesome aspects of living drunk.
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>William
William - 06 Jun 2005 03:54 GMT
Larry and Elly,

I appreciate so much both of you taking the time to write and respond
to my post.  Larry, My healthcare provider is an HMO, and to be seen by
an ENT doctor means waiting for a Tinnitus evaluation by a nurse and
then receiving a referral to an ENT.  The earliest I could see an ENT
will be toward the end of this month.  I am considering paying out of
pocket to see an ENT now.  Life is not perfect.

Elly, the website link you provided describes many real aspects of my
life - and as Larry mentioned, these could have been a cumulative
factor for me.  I have a crushed disk from an old injury, I am
evidently a nightime tooth grinder, and I had my teeth ultrasonically
cleaned at the dentist in the week this started, so go figure...

I will say this: Tinnitus is affecting me, it's made a remarkably
negative impact to my life.  If I have to I'll deal with it, just like
everyone else.

All the best to all of you,

William
Tom Sharples - 06 Jun 2005 17:55 GMT
T began to really plague me about 1 month ago (altho I've had a slight
amount my entire adult life). From the many hours I've spent googling, there
seem to be three aspects to tinnitus- the initial bio-mechanical problem
that sets it off (loud noise, tmj, allergies, ear infection, whatever), the
secondary anxiety problem when the brain views it as a "threat" and becomes
hypervigilant to it, and lastly stress which causes the brain to "turn up
the volume" and hear all sounds, including tinnitus, more readily. And a lot
of the time, it seems that the inital set-off or the thing that causes it to
re-emerge is something like jaw clenching or TMJ problems. If that is the
problem in your case, alchohol undoubtably addresses all the causes
simultaneously, e.g. jaw clenching, hypervigilance, and stress. The other
thing that seems to be very sucessful, probably for the same reasons, is
drug treatment with Xanax, or Amityptiline. I'ver been waiting to try those
for a time when the woozyness won't interfere too much with what I do for a
living (software engineering) which requires me to be in top form :-)
Good luck,

Tom S.

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> William
Brian K - 06 Jun 2005 17:56 GMT
> Larry and Elly,
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> negative impact to my life.  If I have to I'll deal with it, just like
> everyone else.

It's how you go about dealing with it that really matters William.
The ENT you see will most likely not find a specific cause for your
tinnitus that he can treat directly, and will therefore be left with
only being able to treat the symptom. This course of action usually
starts with a prescription for something like Xanax. If that doesn't
do the trick to help you cope chemically, then the prescribed
medications will probably progresses to antidepressants and even
antiseizure drugs.

What I would suggest in the meantime, is that you do some research into
what is commonly known as "habituation" or TRT (Tinnitus Retraining
Therapy). Use those keywords in both searching through the Google
archives of this newsgroup and the internet, and add also the name
Pawel J. Jastreboff. Dr. Jastreboff is the one who engineered the
concept of habituation, and his descriptions explanations of how it
works helped me to accept the concept and put it into practice.
Habituation is where you learn to become oblivious to the ringing, so
that you don't have to resort to any other means of reducing or
essentially eliminating the symptom, or more properly the effect it has
on you.
Let me give you one of many analogies on how that works per se. I
usually have a long drive home from work due to "rush hour
traffic", and I like listening to the radio during the commute. What
I don't like is listening to commercials, so I do a lot of station
switching. However, a lot of times I will involuntarily tune out
what's on the radio, because I'm preoccupied thinking about
something. I'll snap out of it and realize that I've been listening
to a long commercial run without really hearing it, or worse yet that I
missed most of a song that I really like which doesn't get played
that often.
Habituation is like that, you begin to become oblivious to the ringing.
It's still there, but you stop hearing it. You most likely won't
need "maskers" and or expensive formal Tinnitus Retraining Therapy
to achieve this. Usually this is something one can master without any
"hoodo voodoo" being involved.
I also recommend following Elly Byrne's resources. I found that using
therapeutic pillows (memory foam or latex) at night and assuming better
posture during the day helped a lot. Another big help was getting as
much sleep as possible. I'm trying to also train myself into getting
enough sleep, by making it my main hobby so to speak.
The more you research the subject of tinnitus and how to deal with it,
the more of an "expert" you'll become. Keep seeking out the cause
of the tinnitus, because it could be caused by something serious. But
in the meantime you can try taming that ringing. Good luck to you!
Murray Grossan - 08 Jun 2005 01:50 GMT
On 6/6/05 9:56 AM, in article
1118077004.455449.320870@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "Brian K"
<bluestucco@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Larry and Elly,
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> of the tinnitus, because it could be caused by something serious. But
> in the meantime you can try taming that ringing. Good luck to you!

How do you deal with it??? Remember, ANY symptom can be made worse by
anxiety reinforcement: the more it itches the more you scratch the more
nervous you get  the more it itches, etc etc. Tinnitus is that way too. Easy
to say, but not easy to do. However you MUST accept the fact that anxiety
can make the T worse and relaxation can take away that reinforcement. This
is why so many therapies can help T patients just by reducing the anxiety
level.
Ben - 09 Jun 2005 23:32 GMT
> How do you deal with it??? Remember, ANY symptom can be made worse by
> anxiety reinforcement: the more it itches the more you scratch the more
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> is why so many therapies can help T patients just by reducing the anxiety
> level.

Then why is my T often quiet when I am at my most stressed?  In fact, how I
feel seems to have very little significance to my T, or what I eat, or
drink.  It is either making a noise, or it ain't!   I am listening for it at
the moment, and I can hardly hear it, and I ain't sressed either!

Ben
 
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