Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / May 2005
Avoid being dogmatic!
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fyfpoon@hotmail.com - 16 May 2005 22:41 GMT The following is my experience and it can be the experience of *some* of you. Thus I suggest the 'habituation' school folks should try at all possible to avoid being dogmatic.
Some people have multiple causes of their discomfort. It took me more than a year of suffering before I found out that I was suffering from a combination of (1)t sound and (2)nerve discomfort. Now, the nerve discomfort is gone but the t sound, though much much lower in volume, is still there from time to time. That is to say, I was suffering from TWO ills that were independent in nature but nevertheless inter-related in some ways.
While people could get used to low volume sound over time, those with nerve discomfort should seek _medical_ treatment. That your doctor does not know how to do it does not mean treatment for it does not exist on this planet. I managed to have my nerve discomfort 'cured' using acupuncture. However, nothing works for everyone.
Ben - 16 May 2005 23:21 GMT Hear! Hear! Francis! Well written, but I suppose you will get stoned, or hung, drawn, and quatered for saying this!
Ben <who is doubting "habituaters" due their total inability to even try to contemplate that it might not work for everyone>
> The following is my experience and it can be the experience of *some* > of you. Thus I suggest the 'habituation' school folks should try at [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > exist on this planet. I managed to have my nerve discomfort 'cured' > using acupuncture. However, nothing works for everyone. Susan - 16 May 2005 23:45 GMT > Hear! Hear! Francis! Well written, but I suppose you will get stoned, or > hung, drawn, and quatered for saying this! > > Ben <who is doubting "habituaters" due their total inability to even try to > contemplate that it might not work for everyone> Good luck with your tinnitus, Ben. I don't think we have anything more to offer you here, other than good wishes.
Susan
Tom - 17 May 2005 06:21 GMT Ben,
My tinnitus is like yours, exept that its always there and never not. If I go insane, I am hoping it has the side effect of forgetting that tinnitus sucks. Would that be so bad?
> x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Susan Ben - 17 May 2005 12:42 GMT > Good luck with your tinnitus, Ben. I don't think we have anything more > to offer you here, other than good wishes. I didn't notice anyone offering me anything, with the exception of Elly, but thanks for your good wishes
Ben .
Staff - 17 May 2005 20:52 GMT >> Good luck with your tinnitus, Ben. I don't think we have anything more >> to offer you here, other than good wishes. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Ben . I observed people offering you tips on how to habituate your tinnitus, Ben. As you must know by now, habituation works for the vast majority of tinnitus sufferers. An estimated 90% of people who get suffer tinnitus spontaneously habituate and I would speculate a good percentage of the remainder habituate using the techniques described in this group. Susan is correct. If you choose to ignore this advice, we have nothing else to offer for there is no known cure.
Best wishes...
jmc - 18 May 2005 17:52 GMT Suddenly, without warning, Staff exclaimed (5/17/2005 8:52 PM):
>>>Good luck with your tinnitus, Ben. I don't think we have anything more >>>to offer you here, other than good wishes. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Best wishes... Just my two cents. Habituate is a useful technique (I'm part of that 90%), if a cause and cure for an individual's T cannot be determined.
However, seems to me that suggesting habituation without first suggesting seeing a doctor is like telling someone to habituate to their back pain, or possible fibromylagia, or any other chronic pain, without medical attention first. Just doesn't seem like good advice.
I'm hardly an expert, but my understanding is that T is a *symptom* of a good many medical issues (not in my case - mine was caused by loud speakers + youthful stupidity, but in many others), and those issues should be determined and corrected before someone just 'gets used to' a symptom of something that could be more serious.
jmc
Susan - 18 May 2005 18:07 GMT > Just my two cents. Habituate is a useful technique (I'm part of that > 90%), if a cause and cure for an individual's T cannot be determined. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > jmc I don't there were suggestions, as always, to be medically evaluated, to try various prescriptions which would require medical evaluation, etc.
Habituation isn't a treatment, it's something accomplished by the brain, and may be hastened by altering certain thought patterns and/or behaviors.
I always advise those with new and/or unexplained tinnitus to get a complete medical evaluation, including thyroid and infectious disease workups.
Susan
Murray Grossan - 17 May 2005 07:18 GMT On 5/16/05 3:21 PM, in article R19ie.3777$Nt.2067@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net,
> Hear! Hear! Francis! Well written, but I suppose you will get stoned, or > hung, drawn, and quatered for saying this! [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> exist on this planet. I managed to have my nerve discomfort 'cured' >> using acupuncture. However, nothing works for everyone. What do you mean by nerve discomfort?
fyfpoon@hotmail.com - 17 May 2005 15:57 GMT A cluster of somatic discomfort moving side to side...
jmc - 18 May 2005 17:53 GMT Suddenly, without warning, Murray Grossan exclaimed (5/17/2005 7:18 AM):
> On 5/16/05 3:21 PM, in article R19ie.3777$Nt.2067@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net, > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> > What do you mean by nerve discomfort? I'm guessing that pinched (or 'misrouted') nerves in the neck can be a cause of T?
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