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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / March 2005Innocently Yours,
I have always favored the use of the market demand concept to judge the validity of a product and in this case a drug or a medical treatment. The idea behind is that we could fool some of the people all the time or all the people some of the time but we could never fool all the people all the time. By dishing out their hard earned dollars to buy comic, fiction, horror, or even porno books, consumers derive pleasure from reading them regardless of the nature of these readings being 'scientific' or not. However, in the use of a medical treatment like acupuncture for tinnitus, consumers have to suffer pain first before deriving a value and the value in this case is the 'healing' power. Anyone in his or her right frame of mind would never pay out hard-earned dollars in order to get pain if there would not be a value associated with this pain sensation. Thus the idea that the growth in market demand for acupuncture treatment for tinnitus is nothing but sheer 'fad' is really 'Innocently Yours'! FP > By dishing out their hard earned dollars to buy comic, fiction, horror, > or even porno books, consumers derive pleasure from reading them [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > FP I understand your reasoning, Francis, and maybe in the long term you're right, who knows? OTOH, very well crafted marketing can overcome all sorts of objections. Witness the cancer and Lyme disease patients desperate for any kind of hope who followed a criminal who'd lost his M.D. in the U.S. all over the globe. Some of these patients died. Look up Nioholas Bachynsky. His very clever marketing tactic was to use decoys or shills in online groups for the chronically and terminally ill, folks who pretended to have been cured of the same condition by going to whatever country he was hiding out in and paying tens of thousands of dollars. Your market model is too laissez faire for me. Susan Do you have a better model that is free of errors? That is why it is important to go by referral. I was in China in 2003 for the entire year and into the first 8 months in 2004, I never went to see a acupuncturist until I came back to Vancouver and my daughter told me about the one that had treated her....and then bingo! The reason why I did not go for acupuncture treatment in China was because (1)the 'scientific' ENT doctors in China and Hong Kong never mentioned that to me, and (2)the 'scientists' in alt. were randomly citing 'controlled' studies that discredited the use of acupuncture for tinnitus. Now, I am not the only one that has benefited from acupuncture. Another participant here has. Why do you disbelieve him? By the way, what is OTOH? FP > Do you have a better model that is free of errors? Francis, if you want freedom from error, sorry, wrong planet. That is why it is > important to go by referral. Referrals from trusted sources can be very valuable, I agree. But I would never accept one for treatment without doing my own research into the available science first. That's just my way of improving my odds. I was in China in 2003 for the entire > year and into the first 8 months in 2004, I never went to see a > acupuncturist until I came back to Vancouver and my daughter told me [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > FP I don't disbelieve you or him. I've just seen far more folks say it didn't quiet their T, and I haven't found good literature to support acupuncture for T. It's something I would consider if I still had intrusive T, but not the first thing. Even if you both were helped, that doesn't make the odds of a benefit high for everyone else. Same with ginkgo; most folks don't find it improves their T, yet I know you and others have had a different outcome. That's fine, I don't disbelieve you, but ginkgo has stronger odds against helping me than doing me any good. I'm glad any time someone has found help. OTOH = On The Other Hand. :-) Susan
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