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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / December 2004neurosurgeon
My Dr told me today I have to go back to see the nurosurgeon because my neck is gettin g worse now. If I sit in one position for more than a few minutes my left side goes all heavy and cold..and last night it was so bad I had such a headache and my ears were ringing like crazy. I moved my neck and the tone of my T changed...so perhaps it is related, anyway last time I saw the neuro 6 months ago..he said surgery was inevitable but it was im possible to predict when I will need it, depending how the symptoms progressed. I am so scared,I read about cevical spine operations and osteophytes, people have strokes and lose their voices. and even though he recons the T isnt related I know that if I have the op one of the first things I am going to listen for is my T. Jenny > My Dr told me today I have to go back to see the nurosurgeon because my > neck [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Jenny What happened to all the positive thinking, Jennifer? I have read your posts over the past few months and I have to tell you that you seem to go from one extreme to the next. One day, you might be in dire straits...lounging around whilst the rest of the world goes on without you....the next day, you are elated about your positive thinking and not hearing your tinnitus. You can imagine all sorts of things will happen to you...if you let yourself give in to negative thinking. To say that the first thing you will do, after neurological surgery, only serves to tell me that you are *still* listening for it on a daily (if not hourly) basis. You are *still* giving your tinnitus way to much dominance in your life. Until you are able to be honest with yourself about your tinnitus and the way you let it control you, you will never habituate it. You worry over things that haven't even happened yet. Ever heard of WTW? It stands for Wait To Worry. That might be something that you want to think about. Santa don't tell me things I can see for myself. Santa wrote in message ... >> My Dr told me today I have to go back to see the nurosurgeon because my >> neck [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > >Santa What happened to all the positive thinking, Jennifer? It's still there..I have the occasional setback you >>are elated about your positive thinking and not hearing your tinnitus you are wrong..I havent been "elated" about anything for a long long time. To say that the first thing you will do, >>after neurological surgery, only serves to tell me that you are *still* >>listening for it on a daily (if not hourly) basis wrong again..compared to how I was concentrating on my Tinnitus 3 weeks ago..I hardly think about it now. Now where as some of your post has it's valid points. other parts of it are just a crock from someone who doesnt know me. There is more to my life and my health problems than Tinnitus..I wish it was just so simple as a ringing in my ears. I however am not going to post about every aspect of my life.... and people like you who think they are psychologists are not going to push me back down to where I have been..... I have occasional setbacks..when I am down I vent and I post, when I am positive I share it. I unlike someone highly unoriginal with a name like "santa" are not a lurker. so unless you have something to say that I would class as constructive critisicm, I'd prefer you keep your opinions to yourself. This does not go for the people I have been posting with regulary..like ,Elly, Francis,simon, susan etc etc. Sorry but lectures from a lurker done go down well with me. Jenny >Santa wrote in message ... >>> My Dr told me today I have to go back to see the nurosurgeon because my [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> >>Santa > What happened to all the positive thinking, Jennifer? > It's still there..I have the occasional setback [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Jenny Ooooo, it didn't take much to get you going, did it, Jennifer? You have shared many aspects of your life with this group....from your tinnitus, to your drinking, to your suicidal tendencies. You are in the depths of despair one day, then, on top of the world the next. Sounds like a psychological problem to me. You did say that you have seen a therapist about this, didn't you? That's good. The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. I am not a lurker nor a troll. I can see you cry for help in your posts...or is it all an act to get attention? Santa > Ooooo, it didn't take much to get you going, did it, Jennifer? You have > shared many aspects of your life with this group....from your tinnitus, to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Santa What is your problem? Do you just enjoy tormenting people and causing trouble? If you can't sign your real name, who the hell is gonna listen to you? You may not be a lurker or a troll, but you sure as hell aren't very nice. All of us who were hit with tinnitus had our ups and downs. It's clear to me that you don't understand that at all. Eva LOL...what an idiot..as for my drinking problem...I have been drunk 3 times this year...maybe thats the problem! Thanks Eva..it's good to know that not everyone listens to idiots like Santa..h wont get me down..dont worry. Santa wrote in message ... >> What happened to all the positive thinking, Jennifer? >> It's still there..I have the occasional setback [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > >Santa you hit the nail on the head..its all an act t get attention..Poor little jenny who has no friends or life, comes on to a tinnitus board to get attention...will she be saved from the dephs of despair by Santa? Tune in next week..same time..same channel. Santa wrote in message ... >> What happened to all the positive thinking, Jennifer? >> It's still there..I have the occasional setback [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > >Santa > you hit the nail on the head..its all an act t get attention..Poor little > jenny who has no friends or life, comes on to a tinnitus board to get > attention...will she be saved from the dephs of despair by Santa? > Tune in next week..same time..same channel. The truth hurts, doesn't it, Jennifer. You are pathetic. Chris Kringle aka Santa Thank you..now run along and play little boy. Santa wrote in message ... >> you hit the nail on the head..its all an act t get attention..Poor little >> jenny who has no friends or life, comes on to a tinnitus board to get [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Chris Kringle aka Santa :::::::::::Bruce De-cloaking::::::: Attagirl Jennifer! Youi're only trying to deal with your 't' best you can. Don't even read this guy. He'll keep it up as long as you respond to him. As with tinnitus, why even lend your attention to him? :::::::::::Bruce Re-cloaking::::::: :::::::::::::: and away:::::::::::: > Thank you..now run along and play little boy. > Santa wrote in message ... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > >Chris Kringle aka Santa >Attagirl Jennifer! Youi're only trying to deal with your 't' best you >can. >Don't even read this guy. He'll keep it up as long as you respond to >him. >As with tinnitus, why even lend your attention to him? Listen to him, Jenny, he's right. Plus, he can make you disappear. ;-) Susan Thanks Guys !! >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Susan > Thanks Guys !! I'm sure this will not be popular (and I'm sure I'll get hissed/flamed) but the poster Santa is just telling it like it is. Carefully re-read Santa's original reply. Your posts HAVE been very divergent/polarized- one day stating that "your life is over" and later you've got the "t" beat with "positive thinking". But sometimes a good old lecture is what someone needs to get their bearings back. I truly don't think Santa was trying slam or insult you. Believe me, I'm not about to tell you how you should feel and if someone wants to feel sorry for themselves then it's their perogative. Having ups and downs with tinnitus is probably the norm. Those feelings are valid. But I really feel that the more one focuses on their tinnitus the more it affects them. If you let it, tinnitus can and will take over your life. Am I happy that I have this condition myself along with the total loss of unlateral hearing and vestibular function? Hell no, but I was determined from the onset not to blame anybody, become fixated on my problems, or feel sorry for myself. Every day I run across someone that has it worse than myself and that keeps me grounded. Try telling an elderly patient who is trying to take care of her spouse that has severe dementia (I'm an eye doctor) that her macular degeneration is progressing to end-stage (meaning she'll be blind soon) and any feelings of feeling sorry for myself quickly fades. I sincerely wish you the best of luck with everything and that 2005 will be a better year for you. frank The truth hurts, doesn't it, Jennifer. You are pathetic. the poster Santa is just >telling it like it is. well thanks very much. and yes Tinnitus had overtaken me for a long long time..for three weeks now since my positive thinking I have barely been negative at all..even mentioning the neurosurgeon I wasnt totally depressed about it. So why bring my ups and downs up now? Go on, check back t my posts for the last 3 weeks. It's like you want me to go back down there. sorry, no can do. drfrank21@hotmail.com wrote in message <1103428190.010702.150240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>... >> Thanks Guys !! > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > >frank see Frank, there are ways and means of saying things..did I take offence to your post? No...no adult wants to be lectured by someone they don't even know. Santa overstepped the line..talking to me like I had been a naughty girl. I work with dementia patients and their families every day too..and yes I know I went through a stage of feeling totally sorry for myself, but in the meantime I still found time to care for others, and sit with people why they were dying, and care for my diabetic daughter, and all the other continue with all the other everyday things I do. and you are right about letting tinnitus take over your life..but my point is, why bring it up now, when I have told everyone here, how positive I am now, I ahve had ONE setback in that time, and I feel like I have been attacked for it. Not very nice for a tinnitus support group. Jenny drfrank21@hotmail.com wrote in message <1103428190.010702.150240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>... >> Thanks Guys !! > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > >frank I'm giving up on this thread- no hard feelings. You didn't read what I wrote. I am not defending nor cordoning "Santa" but his original reply was only pointing out that the first thing you were going to do after the surgery was to listen for your tinnitus. And that's the last thing you should do IMO. That's letting the tinnitus control you and not YOU controlling the tinnitus. And I was initially shocked when a close friend gave me a "lecture" when I first went deaf after my failed surgery but it gave me motivation to change my outlook and looking back it was one of the best things to happen to me. So keep up your positive attitude and thoughts. There are a lot of people behind you (including me). frank Speaking of Santa.........two friends of mine were coming out of a shopping center this week, heading to their car, when they saw a man fully dressed in a Santa Suit, rifling through their trunk! One said, hey Santa, that is my car! And he said, well it was open! And walked away............maybe this is how Santa gets his holiday presents to leave under the tree? MJ sounds like the santa we know and love >Speaking of Santa.........two friends of mine were coming out of a shopping >center this week, heading to their car, when they saw a man fully dressed in a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >MJ sufein@aol.comnospam (Susan ) wrote in part: >Plus, he can make you disappear. ;-) I think he fakes that... ;-)  SignatureJim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG And can we please change the subject, I'm really not that interesting. Jim Chinnis wrote in message ... >sufein@aol.comnospam (Susan ) wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Jim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA >Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG > sufein@aol.comnospam (Susan ) wrote in part: > > >Plus, he can make you disappear. ;-) > > I think he fakes that... ;-) > -- On the otherhand I can fairly effectively disappear when I owe someone money. Bruce "EERIE WAX" <EERIEWAX@yahoo.com> wrote in part: >> sufein@aol.comnospam (Susan ) wrote in part: >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Bruce I've noticed that you tend to disappear a lot. SignatureJim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG Yeah.... it's a reflection of my credit status. Bruce > Thank you..now run along and play little boy. > Santa wrote in message ... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >>Chris Kringle aka Santa Jennifer wrote: Dec. 6, 2004 Is it normal for T to get progressivley worse? I have had mine for 2 years the noises have worsened and the hearing going down and still going lower......I haven't got menieres. (so neurologist says) All this to makes me anxious for what lays ahead, with the hearing diminishing the way it is, and the T worsening. Jenny Dec.13, 2004 Well Im enjoying my 3rd day of my T being totally insignifigant. and I'm loving it...it's still there but so quiet that it's hardly worth mentioning. Still loud when I first wake up too, but totally bearable..yay !! positive thinking !! Jenny I rest my case. You went from anxiety over worsening tinnitus on Dec. 6th to 'totally insignificant' in just 4 days. Kris Kringle yes..isn't it great what positive thinking can do...dont you wish that you could be positive like that Santa? Now why dont you go and stick your fat red a.s on a sleigh... and do something that is worthwhile..... because your negativity is wearing thin..... Im actually rather embarassed for your perseverence on this subject..you seem to know so much about me, makes me think you might have the hots for me...sorry dont date fat olld men. Now just because Im tired of dragging this thread on.. Im going to block you, you obviously have nothing constructive to say..Have a lovely christmas........... I know I will. Santa wrote in message ... >> Thank you..now run along and play little boy. >> Santa wrote in message ... [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >Kris Kringle > I rest my case. You went from anxiety over worsening tinnitus on Dec. 6th > to 'totally insignificant' in just 4 days. > > Kris Kringle Santa Baby, nobody is interested in your "case." Eva >> I rest my case. You went from anxiety over worsening tinnitus on Dec. >> 6th to 'totally insignificant' in just 4 days. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Eva I read back through this thread and believe Santa's post to be a good example of "tough love". Jennifer, I've read your posts carefully since you started and believe you are on your way to habituation or, as my ENT said, 'getting used to it'. I think if you had been face-to-face with Santa his good intentions would have been apparent. The number one detriment to habituation, IMO, is monitoring one's tinnitus. Bill "Bill" <Bill@myplace.now> wrote in part: >>> I rest my case. You went from anxiety over worsening tinnitus on Dec. >>> 6th to 'totally insignificant' in just 4 days. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Bill I think Bill is exactly right. This is a tough medium. SignatureJim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG > "Bill" <Bill@myplace.now> wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > -- > Jim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Since this can be a tough medium..... I would suggest, Poster-Who-Calls-Himself-Santa, you use a different screen handle. "Santa" used this way kind of gives the 'scarey-clown' effect. Just a suggestion. I have to go now. Creditors have already tracked me here. Bruce >Since this can be a tough medium..... >I would suggest, Poster-Who-Calls-Himself-Santa, you use a different [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Bruce Bruce: When time (and your witness protection status) permits, you have to stop by our new and expanded EERIE WAX Research Center near Seattle (where it never rains) and see our newest product: =============== EERIE HOT WAX !!! =============== Trust me -- this will burn your socks off -- and possibly, a few other things -- not perfected yet-t-t ! It will definitely make you forget about your T for a while, but may create a few other problems ... What price happiness ??? Ciao-4-now -- Enjoy the holidays, Bob D. Bob D. Long Island, NY bdimarco@optonline.net who is "Santa" <A HREF="mailto:MyWorkShop@thenorthpole.org">MyWorkShop@thenorthpole.org</A> that's easy. Typical profile Pre teen ager tortured frogs and cats. Afraid to do this to dogs, they can bite As a teenager did grafite at school and cheated in tests. Did real damage at Holloween Has no friends Was caught once and punished, so now sticks to anonymous mischief and torture. Kind of person who throws trash on the ground when there is a trash can available, if no one is looking. Uses the floor/ rug to snub ciggarettes, rarely an ashtray. Around people is extremely polite and proper in hopes of being liked. = and fails. Did I omit something? > so unless you have something to say that I would class as constructive > critisicm, I'd prefer you keep your opinions to yourself. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jenny Jenny, don't let him get to you! It sounded like a lecture to me, too. You just do your best and ignore anyone who tries to tell you this kinda stuff. I found it very sarcastic -- don't quite know how to take it. You just hang in there and keep posting to the folks here who *have* been helpful to you -- ignore the rest. Good luck! Eva
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