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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / December 2004spine and tinnitus
A chiropractor once showed me the medical textbook he used in college. On that particular page he showed me, it was clearly writen that a compressed nerve in the spine leads to (1)tinnitus and (2) the hardening of arteries. In the finaly analysis, my tinnitus has a lot to do with my spine and the parts compressed in the spine. Amazingly, none of the ENT, neurologists and GPs I visited ever brought up the relationship between tinnitus and spine. Perhaps the spine is too far away from the ear and that is why they did not even bother. In my view, any doctor that is trained to look at our human body 'part by part' is practicing false science. FP >Amazingly, none of the ENT, >neurologists and GPs I visited ever brought up the relationship >between tinnitus and spine. Perhaps the spine is too far away from >the ear and that is why they did not even bother. You got that right. What doctor has even looked a t- or felt - the neck muscles? Tinnitus is a pain in the neck Elly's Tinnitus Resources http://eebee.net/ Elly Byrne <elly@eebee.cjb.net.noway> wrote in part: >>Amazingly, none of the ENT, >>neurologists and GPs I visited ever brought up the relationship [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >What doctor has even looked a t- or felt - the neck muscles? Based on the above, I can't help but think that they should take a good look at the anus.  SignatureJim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG >Based on the above, I can't help but think that they should take a good look >at the anus. It's my belief that many have. Their own, unfortunately, for long periods. Susan sufein@aol.comnospam (Susan ) wrote in part: >x-no-archive: yes > >>Based on the above, I can't help but think that they should take a good look >>at the anus. > >It's my belief that many have. Their own, unfortunately, for long periods. At least that self-study may have been more illuminating than an examination of this thread's chiropractic text that connects most tinnitus with the spine. SignatureJim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG > >Amazingly, none of the ENT, > >neurologists and GPs I visited ever brought up the relationship [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > What doctor has even looked a t- or felt - the neck muscles? They have been trained to look at our human body 'part by part' as opposed to looking at it as an interrelated organism. That is why a lot of knowledge related to treating tinnitus is false or pseud-science. FP > Tinnitus is a pain in the neck > Elly's Tinnitus Resources > http://eebee.net/ (snip) > They have been trained to look at our human body 'part by part' as > opposed to looking at it as an interrelated organism. That is why a > lot of knowledge related to treating tinnitus is false or > pseud-science. > FP Nonsense. Modern medicine is holistic. 1. Of or relating to holism. 1. Emphasizing the importance of the whole and the interdependence of its parts. 2. Concerned with wholes rather than analysis or separation into parts: holistic medicine; holistic ecology. Best wishes, scp >A chiropractor once showed me the medical textbook he used in college. > On that particular page he showed me, it was clearly writen that a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >FP I have had increasing lower back trouble for more than 20 years and Tinnitus for more than 13 years and it has become more and more apparent that when there is fatigue and ache in the lower back my tinnitus will in a very parallel manner accompany these as a kind of signal that there is trouble in the back. But none of my ear doctors has shown interest in the lower back ongoings and none of my lower back doctors has seen a reason for bringing these two together in analysis or treatment and if scp writes that "Modern medicine is holistic" it doesn't seem to mean anything regarding my tinnitus. Any ideas what one could do regarding these parallelisms ? Mind your ears Hans Hans Speer <hspeerspeer@web.de> wrote in part: >>A chiropractor once showed me the medical textbook he used in college. >> On that particular page he showed me, it was clearly writen that a [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >Mind your ears >Hans I think anything that makes you feel better can help your tinnitus fade into the background of your mind. When you are weak and struggling is when the tinnitus is more able to overwhelm you and fill the conscious mind. I wouldn't call that "holistic" thinking. I'd just say that a lot of tinnitus depends upon our mental and emotional status and that that status can be influenced by many things, such as back pain. SignatureJim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG >I think anything that makes you feel better can help your tinnitus fade into >the background of your mind. When you are weak and struggling is when the >tinnitus is more able to overwhelm you and fill the conscious mind. I'm afraid this is for me a statement too general and not really saying anything. It might be instead "Anything that makes me feel better in spite of my present tinnitus can help my tinnitus fade into the background... " If something makes me feel better or not can only be decided after I have tried it and seen how my tinnitus reacts. There are things that would make me feel very good if I had no tinnitus but with tinnitus are not even worth trying e.g. taking part in a church service or listening to a speech or a lecture or to people for more than 15 minutes (though I try again and again). There are a few things that do not really make me feel better because I want to do them but help my tinnitus fade away e.g. working at the computer. Of course then I don't feel bad, but I would have more fun doing other things that my t. doesn't let me do (for example helping people by listening to them) One of the cruel things is that - before tinnitus - silence was an absolutely positive state to achieve. But one of the tinnitus rules is : "avoid silence", and it is even true. >I wouldn't call that "holistic" thinking. I'd just say that a lot of tinnitus >depends upon our mental and emotional status and that that status can be >influenced by many things, such as back pain. A lot of our whole life depends upon our mental and emotional status and can be influenced by .... so this is nothing special. Of course real stress of mind can make a bearable tinnitus too loud. This will of course be different for other tinnitus people who say they can even make tinnitus their friend. Well let's have a nice rest of the day Hans I suppose one of the most wonderful gifts is to be able to walk in the woods and only hear the trees rustle. Those of us with tinnitus have been robbed of peace of mind and spirit. Piercing high pitched sounds since 1985 and worsening hearing loss are my constant companions. I think the "I-Pod" generation needs to know the risks as well as the pleasures of music rocking the eardrums. >>I think anything that makes you feel better can help your tinnitus fade >>into [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Well let's have a nice rest of the day > Hans >Any ideas what one could do regarding these parallelisms ? > >Mind your ears >Hans You will need to do your own research. http://eebee.net http://tinnitusbook.com Tinnitus is a pain in the neck Elly's Tinnitus Resources http://eebee.net/ >chiropractor once showed me the medical textbook he used in college. >> On that particular page he showed me, it was clearly writen that a >>compressed nerve in the spine leads to (1)tinnitus and (2) the >>hardening of arteries. HA! That is pretty funny even though it may be true.......why do chiropractors connect every single illness or disease to the spine............we are not a single moded entity.............sorry to be a little disagreeable on this but just saw a pt who had 52 WEEKS of treatment for tinnitus who did not beneift at all, and the chiro NEVER made a referral to an ear MD. MJ i HAD 4 MONTHS OF CHiro appointments, besides feelin g a little looser...nothing!! >>chiropractor once showed me the medical textbook he used in college. >>> On that particular page he showed me, it was clearly writen that a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >MJ I never had tinnitus until 6 hours after a neck manipulation by a chiropractor. I've had for 6 years since. GKM > >chiropractor once showed me the medical textbook he used in college. > >> On that particular page he showed me, it was clearly writen that a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > MJ Sorry to hear that Gary. Different chiros use different methods. I have been to 4 different ones, and only one ever did a neck manipulation which I did not like. He always asks if he can do it but now I say NO. See if you can relate to anything on this page: http://eebee.net/TinnitusIsaPainintheNeck.shtml What is your opinion of hyperbaric oxygen these days? I still have your comments on http://eebee.net/german.shtml Tinnitus is a pain in the neck Elly's Tinnitus Resources http://eebee.net/ >I never had tinnitus until 6 hours after a neck manipulation by a >chiropractor. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> MJ
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