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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / November 2004The emotional element in the formation of tinnitus.
My t arose in the midst of emotional turmoil about a year ago. In its subsequent development, I read articles that talked about the relation of our emotion to our t, and heard some doctors talking about such a relationship. So far, such an element as emotion and its relationship to t has seldom been brought up by the doctors and research scientists in alt. Perhaps this is *one* of the blind spots in the sphere of tinnitus sicence. Wonder how many of you share a similar view? FP If I was asked to explain how I thought I got my T I would say....I was stressed to the max, and tired, burnt out emotionally and phsysically and instead of stopping I pushed through..and BANG...somethign had to give. Maybe in my case my ears were my vulnerable spot, I did have a lot of ear infections as a kid, So yes the start of my T was related to emotion...wonder if anyone else was going through some sort of turmoil or stressful period when their T started. francispoon wrote in message <936eaee8.0411151919.3b519cd5@posting.google.com>... >My t arose in the midst of emotional turmoil about a year ago. In its >subsequent development, I read articles that talked about the relation [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >FP > If I was asked to explain how I thought I got my T I would say....I was > stressed to the max, and tired, burnt out emotionally and phsysically and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So yes the start of my T was related to emotion...wonder if anyone else was > going through some sort of turmoil or stressful period when their T started. There is no shortage of liternature that talks about the relationship between emotion and ear problems. Unfortunately, this aspect is not that commonly found amongst the medical liternatures of the 'conventional' doctors, in my experience. About a year about, I experienced tinnitus. The explanation given by the 'conventional' doctorS was that my cochlea was getting old and feeble and that was why tinnitu surfaced, and then there was the explanation of poor blood circulation due to poor blood vessels... On the other hand, the first question asked by the 'alternative' doctors or the TCM people was *how* I got my t. Their theory is that our emotion such as anger and fear could inhibit the proper functioning of our internal body organs such as kidney and liver. The damage is not in the form of bleeding but in the form of an upset energy balance. The latter is too vague to the 'conventional' doctors. And the TCM people believe that there is a close relationship between our cochlea and our kidney and this belief has been held for the past two thousand years. This belief of the TCM school has been laughed at or ridiculed by the simple folks of the modern world until they themselves found out that the 'high-tech', 'modern' doctors these days are also looking into the same area except that they are doing this about 2000 years later: http://www.boystownhospital.org/parents/info/genetics/ears.asp FP > francispoon wrote in message > <936eaee8.0411151919.3b519cd5@posting.google.com>... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > > >FP Turmoil, stress etc cause tension in the body. This causes the muscles tense up. After a long time of this something happens that tips the tension over the edge. Presto - TINNITUS. Tinnitus is a pain in the neck Elly's Tinnitus Resources http://eebee.net/ >My t arose in the midst of emotional turmoil about a year ago. In its >subsequent development, I read articles that talked about the relation [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >FP >Turmoil, stress etc cause tension in the body. They also cause a tremendous cascade of hormonal and neurotransmitter activity. It's not just muscles. Susan > Turmoil, stress etc cause tension in the body. > > This causes the muscles tense up. > > After a long time of this something happens that tips the tension over > the edge. Turmoil and stress cause poor blood circulation. ======================== > Presto - TINNITUS. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > >FP > Turmoil, stress etc cause tension in the body. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Elly's Tinnitus Resources > http://eebee.net/I Elly, While I agree that muscle tension can cause tinnitus and can also exacerbate tinnitus, there are many other causes. You remind of the person who only has a hammer and everything becomes a nail. HNG >Elly, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >HNG I used to take a guess at 80% whose T was not caused by loud noise exposure. Assar Bjorne has been treating T patients for over 10 years. He is now putting that figure much higher. Why? Because his treatment works for all sorts of people. Have you read his material? Tinnitus is a pain in the neck Elly's Tinnitus Resources http://eebee.net/ Yes, emotions and stress are part of what causes tinnitus to get worse for me. There are times when t is really loud when a storm is in progress. I have had it for 12 years now and have just given up all hope of ever finding a cure. Someone mentioned Low Level Laser Therapy. But I wouldn't try it fearing it might make the t worse. When I am at my most stressed my T usually goes dead quiet. I am always different to everyone else on here, or what? :) Ben > Yes, emotions and stress are part of what causes tinnitus to get worse for me. > There are times when t is really loud when a storm is in progress. I have had > it for 12 years now and have just given up all hope of ever finding a cure. > Someone mentioned Low Level Laser Therapy. But I wouldn't try it fearing it > might make the t worse. > When I am at my most stressed my T usually goes dead quiet. I am always > different to everyone else on here, or what? :) > > Ben There is probably no demonstrable correlation between stress and tinnitus. "Bill" <Bill@myplace.now> wrote in part: >> When I am at my most stressed my T usually goes dead quiet. I am always >> different to everyone else on here, or what? :) >> >> Ben >There is probably no demonstrable correlation between stress and tinnitus. I've always guessed that very high stress would be incompatible with tinnitus. One person here once explained how loud your tinnitus would go if you were in the jungle and saw a tiger about to pounce. My thinking is that I would become totally unaware of tinnitus under such stress--that it would disappear.  SignatureJim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG > "Bill" <Bill@myplace.now> wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > become > totally unaware of tinnitus under such stress--that it would disappear. Makes sense to me. Perhaps some folks are confusing "stress" with "distress". >>When I am at my most stressed my T usually goes dead quiet. I am always >>different to everyone else on here, or what? :) >> >>Ben > > There is probably no demonstrable correlation between stress and tinnitus. Stress does not cause tinnitus. Loud noise over time is the cause of most cases of tinnitus, as it certainly was in my case. Yes, there are many other causes, but most of us have hurt our ears with noise. Pressure waves... http://www.lowertheboom.org/trice/decibels.htm > >>When I am at my most stressed my T usually goes dead quiet. I am always > >>different to everyone else on here, or what? :) [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > http://www.lowertheboom.org/trice/decibels.htm I think stress causes one to become more focused on their tinnitus. Has to be differentiated from the "fight or flight" stress reaction though. I know myself, after a particularily stressful day, will have my tinnitus go thru the roof. On the weekends my "t" is at it's quietest. So obviously stress does NOT cause tinnitus but it can exacerbate it. frank >>>>When I am at my most stressed my T usually goes dead quiet. I am always >>>>different to everyone else on here, or what? :) [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > frank Exactly. I would put stress and anxiety on the list, as well as fatigue. When we are beset, pressured, we tend to feel become introspective and aware of how we feel. It is at those times when I myself hear my tinnitus. The qualitative or quantative nature of the tinnitus hasn't changed, but I dwell on it. Best wishes, scp > Exactly. I would put stress and anxiety on the list, as well as > fatigue. When we are beset, pressured, we tend to feel become > introspective and aware of how we feel. It is at those times when I > myself hear my tinnitus. The qualitative or quantative nature of the > tinnitus hasn't changed, but I dwell on it. Why is my T at its quietist when I am most stressed then? I either hear mine, or I don't, because it is either noisy, or not - simple as that. Ben >> Exactly. I would put stress and anxiety on the list, as well as >> fatigue. When we are beset, pressured, we tend to feel become >> introspective and aware of how we feel. It is at those times when I >> myself hear my tinnitus. The qualitative or quantative nature of the >> tinnitus hasn't changed, but I dwell on it. > Why is my T at its quietist when I am most stressed then? I either hear > mine, or I don't, because it is either noisy, or not - simple as that. > Ben Hi, Ben, I can't answer any question about fluctuation of tinnitus, because my tinnitus is constant and unvarying, except at times when it spikes for no reason at all. The constant, unvarying level, is very, very loud. I would give anything, almost, to have it gone. For over 40 years my tinnitus has gradually gotten louder and louder, but never softer. If there is one thing we can all agree on, it is the variablity of tinnitus from person to person. There really doesn't seem to be any standard we can all refer to. Perhaps you are able to handle stress much better than I am. Some strong and determined people don't seem to be threatened by stress, but do rather well in stressful situations. I'm thinking football players, in the midst of a match, soldiers at war. I wonder if footballers and soldiers are bothered by their tinnitus when they are working? Is yours positional, too? That's another thing I can't understand myself. Hang me upside down and I'll still hear my tinnitus. Go figure. Habituation is very odd, and counterintuitive, for sure. I do know I go for entire days without being aware of the roar in my head. I don't hear it, but it is louder than hell when I consciously listen. You see, I seem to have conditioned myself to not listen. Are you trying to listen to it all the time? I gave that up decades ago as distressing and counterproductive. I'm envious that you have periods of silence. That must be so nice. I hereby propose alt.support.tinnitus dissect you and find out your genius. :-) Best wishes, scp > > Exactly. I would put stress and anxiety on the list, as well as > > fatigue. When we are beset, pressured, we tend to feel become [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Ben Because as already well stated, "t" is very variable from individual to individual. Mine is always present (I never not hear it) but ramps up with anxiety and/or sudden, loud noises. frank drfrank21@hotmail.com (drfrank21) wrote in message snipped... > I think stress causes one to become more focused on their > tinnitus. Has to be differentiated from the "fight or flight" > stress reaction though. I know myself, after a particularily > stressful day, will have my tinnitus go thru the roof. On the > weekends my "t" is at it's quietest. So obviously stress does > NOT cause tinnitus but it can exacerbate it. Being a doctor yourself, have you ever studied the mechanism by which stress leads to more t? Through narrowing the blood vessels or inhibiting blood flow? If you could find that out, perhaps it won't be that long before you find out the mechanism by which t is caused. =========== > frank I get what you mean Ben, a few weeks back my T was really bad, i wa slying on the couch feeling sorry for myself, then my husband had a turn of some kind and nearly fainted..my T stopped immediatley. >When I am at my most stressed my T usually goes dead quiet. I am >always different to everyone else on here, or what? :) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> Someone mentioned Low Level Laser Therapy. But I wouldn't try it fearing it >> might make the t worse. > Yes, emotions and stress are part of what causes tinnitus to get worse for me. > There are times when t is really loud when a storm is in progress. I have had > it for 12 years now and have just given up all hope of ever finding a cure. The reason why it is difficult to find a cure is because it is difficult to find the cause. I am currently taking a herb solution which is meant to treat tinnitus that is emotion-based. The theory is that emotional turmoil causes damage to our body internally which, if left untreated, will not heal by itself. My T has been improved a lot but I want to push the limit a bit further. FP ========================================== > Someone mentioned Low Level Laser Therapy. But I wouldn't try it fearing it > might make the t worse.
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