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Why don't even doctors have answers to cure tinnitus?

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francispoon - 12 Nov 2004 21:05 GMT
Is it because...
(1)They are looking at the wrong direction?
(2)In order to cure tinnitus, it requires a different set of scientific discipline?
(3)The answer is around the corner?
(4)any other 'reasons'?

FP
Bill - 13 Nov 2004 03:21 GMT
> Is it because...
> (1)They are looking at the wrong direction?
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>
> FP

There is no cure for tinnitus?
Kuta - 14 Nov 2004 05:58 GMT
They are human and one cannot really understand tinnitus without suffering
from it.

>> Is it because...
>> (1)They are looking at the wrong direction?
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>
> There is no cure for tinnitus?
drfrank21 - 13 Nov 2004 06:05 GMT
> Is it because...
> (1)They are looking at the wrong direction?
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>
> FP

Hate to tell ya but tinnitus isn't the only condition that has no gold
standard cure.
There are a host of many diseases, conditions, and injuries that
escape modern
medicine's grasp for a cure.  Why is there no cure for the common
cold??

I thought you found the cure - sleeping without a pillow.

frank
francispoon - 13 Nov 2004 18:34 GMT
> > Is it because...
> > (1)They are looking at the wrong direction?
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>
> I thought you found the cure - sleeping without a pillow.

Sleeping without the pillow helps improve blood circulation.  Where
did I say it is a cure?  Could you as an 'educated' person cite me the
evidence?  Remember: something is not neccessarily true simply by way
of its being *said*.
You don't need me to tell you that.

FP

> frank
snap_crackle_pop - 13 Nov 2004 18:58 GMT
>>>Is it because...
>>>(1)They are looking at the wrong direction?
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> of its being *said*.
> You don't need me to tell you that.

Yes, Francis, we are all barbarians, and you are the only
"educated" person here.

Best wishes,

scp

> FP
>
>>frank
Bill - 13 Nov 2004 19:15 GMT
>> > Is it because...
>> > (1)They are looking at the wrong direction?
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>
> FP
How does sleeping without a pillow help blood circulation?  Makes no sense
to me.  I think we use pillows to keep our neck straight, thereby enhancing
blood circulation.  If I sleep on my side without a pillow, my head hangs
down at a sharp angle.
francispoon - 14 Nov 2004 22:09 GMT
> >> > Is it because...
> >> > (1)They are looking at the wrong direction?
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> blood circulation.  If I sleep on my side without a pillow, my head hangs
> down at a sharp angle.

I am using a towel.  Sometimes I fold it up to fill out the space
behind the neck.  By sleeping without a pillow or with a low pillow,
you allow your neck muscle on the side of your neck to stretch when
you are doing side sleep.  Hard for me to put in into scientific terms
but I do get benefit a lot.
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drfrank21 - 14 Nov 2004 04:00 GMT
> > > Is it because...
> > > (1)They are looking at the wrong direction?
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>
> FP

Below is a direct quote from your thread: (maybe your t is giving you a little
amnesia) - are you getting a kinked neck yet??

fp"That is what I have been advised by a doctor.  It works!  The sound
and the pitch of the t sound become smaller when I sleep without a
pillow.  So there is something to be said about the blood flow theory."

frank
francispoon - 14 Nov 2004 22:10 GMT
> > > > Is it because...
> > > > (1)They are looking at the wrong direction?
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> and the pitch of the t sound become smaller when I sleep without a
> pillow.  So there is something to be said about the blood flow theory."

Where did you learn your English?  Does the message above equate to being 'cured'?

FP

> frank
drfrank21 - 19 Nov 2004 14:55 GMT
> > > > I thought you found the cure - sleeping without a pillow.
> > >
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>
> Where did you learn your English?

 Vicious.  If you must know, it was from a visiting Martian from
Roswell, New Mexico. Satisfied??

Does the message above equate to being 'cured'?

It does to me and from this source:

"The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth
Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. "

cure    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (kyr)
n.
"Something that corrects or relieves a harmful or disturbing
situation: The cats proved to be a good cure for our mouse problem. "

But you just want to argue semantics I'm sure.

frank


> FP
> >
> > frank
francispoon - 01 Dec 2004 02:48 GMT
> > > > > I thought you found the cure - sleeping without a pillow.
> > > >
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> "Something that corrects or relieves a harmful or disturbing
> situation: The cats proved to be a good cure for our mouse problem. "

OK...on that basis, I am cured!  And i know of t patients who are more
cured than I am.

FP
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> But you just want to argue semantics I'm sure.
>
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> > >
> > > frank
jganders - 13 Nov 2004 19:49 GMT
The no-pillow suggestion falls under the "cant do any harm" category,
right?
It'd be nice if some people would actually try it and report back
instead of sniping at the suggestor.  I mean, it's not that far out of
line is it?
There are harmless suggestions here from time to time. I remember one
guy saying that his T gets louder when ears are exposed to water.  Now
thats an easy one to test, eh? Reduce exposure to water.  Maybe it
makes no sense but where's the downside? Have to wear ear plugs in the
shower or go without a pillow for a couple weeks?  What the heck? What
if a harmless suggestion can actually alleviate T symptoms for .005% of
the 50mil sufferers.  I wouldnt mind being one of those 2,500 people.
Jim
Bill - 14 Nov 2004 00:00 GMT
> The no-pillow suggestion falls under the "cant do any harm" category,
> right?
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> the 50mil sufferers.  I wouldnt mind being one of those 2,500 people.
> Jim

Try it and report back.
Jennifer Bell - 14 Nov 2004 04:57 GMT
I agree, atleast he is trying to give us some relief and he is sharing his
experiences with us...I myself am open to anything.
Oh and I have been wearing earplugs in the shower for the last 8 months or
so and I no longer get the buzzing I used to get.
jganders wrote in message
<1100375382.437926.28080@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>...
>The no-pillow suggestion falls under the "cant do any harm" category,
>right?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>the 50mil sufferers.  I wouldnt mind being one of those 2,500 people.
>Jim
jganders - 13 Nov 2004 19:51 GMT
The no-pillow suggestion falls under the "cant do any harm" category,
right?
It'd be nice if some people would actually try it and report back
instead of sniping at the suggestor.  I mean, it's not that far out of
line is it?
There are harmless suggestions here from time to time. I remember one
guy saying that his T gets louder when ears are exposed to water.  Now
thats an easy one to test, eh?  Have wear earplugs in the shower or go
without a pillow for a couple weeks.  Where's the downside?
What if a harmless suggestion alleviates T symptoms for .005% of the
50mil sufferers.  Gee I wouldnt mind being one of those 2,500 people.
Jennifer Bell - 14 Nov 2004 04:59 GMT
oh and I cant sleep without a pillow, but I have reduced it to one flat one
and yes I can notice a slight difference.
jganders wrote in message
<1100375507.065263.46760@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>...
>The no-pillow suggestion falls under the "cant do any harm" category,
>right?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>What if a harmless suggestion alleviates T symptoms for .005% of the
>50mil sufferers.  Gee I wouldnt mind being one of those 2,500 people.
francispoon - 14 Nov 2004 22:12 GMT
> oh and I cant sleep without a pillow, but I have reduced it to one flat one
> and yes I can notice a slight difference.

Exactly!!!!

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> jganders wrote in message
> <1100375507.065263.46760@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> >What if a harmless suggestion alleviates T symptoms for .005% of the
> >50mil sufferers.  Gee I wouldnt mind being one of those 2,500 people.
Jennifer Bell - 15 Nov 2004 04:50 GMT
keep it up Francis, I for one appreciate everything you are sharing with
us...if we all gave up hope, and just lived with it, there may never be a
reason to find a cure.
We can still get on with our lives and not let T overcome us, but still keep
an open mind to alternatives.
Any relief I experience I am going to let the world know because If I can
help even one person experience a little bit of relief, then it's a job well
done.
So keep up the good work , (just don't insult my country lol )
francispoon wrote in message
<936eaee8.0411141412.2d3a1bad@posting.google.com>...
>> oh and I cant sleep without a pillow, but I have reduced it to one flat one
>> and yes I can notice a slight difference.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>> >What if a harmless suggestion alleviates T symptoms for .005% of the
>> >50mil sufferers.  Gee I wouldnt mind being one of those 2,500 people.
francispoon - 15 Nov 2004 20:42 GMT
Yes, in alt., anyone who could spell the word 'habituation'
automatically becomes an expert.

By the way, I love Oz, and in particular its women population....lol

FP
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> keep it up Francis, I for one appreciate everything you are sharing with
> us...if we all gave up hope, and just lived with it, there may never be a
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> >> >What if a harmless suggestion alleviates T symptoms for .005% of the
> >> >50mil sufferers.  Gee I wouldnt mind being one of those 2,500 people.
GridIronGhost - 30 Nov 2004 17:16 GMT
(4)any other 'reasons'? Money $$$

> Is it because...
> (1)They are looking at the wrong direction?
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>
> FP
 
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