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Salicylates in Food

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john - 31 Oct 2004 13:51 GMT
Have seen some mention of this in a post here, and decided to start a new
thread.

I've found some resources on the web identifying the salicylate content of
various foods.

However, I've not seen anything showing an link between the salicylate
contanet of food and tinnitus.  I assume such a link exists for at least
some people, especially since aspirin is a salicylate.

Any thoughts or resource links on this topic will be appreciated.

Thanks,

John
Susan - 31 Oct 2004 19:09 GMT
>However, I've not seen anything showing an link between the salicylate
>contanet of food and tinnitus.  I assume such a link exists for at least
>some people, especially since aspirin is a salicylate.

I have never researched this, other than by anecdote.  It's very easy to test
on oneself, and the salicylate effect runs its course once it's out of your
system.

Susan
john - 01 Nov 2004 01:13 GMT
All right, I'm game.

Testing means to try this on myself.  How do I gauge the effects?  I mean,
how do you objectively gauge the degree of volume in your head?  And how
often do your measure it?

I'd like to do some self-testing to see what works (if anything).

Perhaps some background on my case will help you, so here it is.

My tinnitus is ususally pretty mild, and I've had it for about ten months.
Had all kinds of hearing tests (little or no loss) and an MRI (no organic
disease).  So the doctor told me hat if it really bothered me, he could put
me on anti-depressants, but that he really didn't like that course of
treamtent.  He advised me that I should avoid aspirin, and cut down on
caffeine and salt.  He also said that in most cases like mine, the tinnitus
evetually goes away by itslef.  Overall it doesn't bother me very much, but
it's always there.

Coffee is very important to me, so I've not been able to give that up.  Stop
drinking it at Noon most every day.  I stopped adding salt to my food for a
while, but also stopped that.   Aspirin's not been a problem, but I do use
ibuprofen a fair amount.

Thanks,

John

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Susan - 01 Nov 2004 02:18 GMT
>Testing means to try this on myself.  How do I gauge the effects?  I mean,
>how do you objectively gauge the degree of volume in your head?  And how
>often do your measure it?

I don't!  I've noticed the effect when I've eaten high salicylate foods.  My
usually negligible T cranks up to a persistent, steady and loud hiss.  

If I hear it and it sounds loud, then it's loud.  :-)  

I mean, the reason I know those foods do it to me is that it happened often
enough that I made the correlation.  I don't put a moment's extra energy into
listening for my T.  Those were occasions when I just happened to notice
because the change was so significant.

>I'd like to do some self-testing to see what works (if anything).

The problem with trying to eliminate salicylates is that it's in all the
healthiest foods, veggies and fruits.

>Perhaps some background on my case will help you, so here it is.
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>evetually goes away by itslef.  Overall it doesn't bother me very much, but
>it's always there.

If it doesn't bother you much though it's always there, then why mess around
with it?
That's the *goal* of treatment for everyone else!

>Coffee is very important to me, so I've not been able to give that up.

I'd rather have T than give up coffee.  Fortunately, coffee doesn't have any
significant nor lasting effects on it.

 Stop
>drinking it at Noon most every day.  I stopped adding salt to my food for a
>while, but also stopped that.   Aspirin's not been a problem, but I do use
>ibuprofen a fair amount.

What are you using a lot of ibuprofen for?  Have you tried cutting starch and
sugar from your diet, eating lower glycemic load?  Helps some folks, helped me
dramatically, second best thing I did for my T, after taking antibiotics for
the infection causing it.

Susan
Jim Chinnis - 01 Nov 2004 17:54 GMT
"john" <boddhisatva@remove.acd.net> wrote in part:

>All right, I'm game.
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>I'd like to do some self-testing to see what works (if anything).

John, you say your T is mostly low and doesn't bother you that much. If you
want to test your response to salicylates, I don't think any sort of horly,
daily, or other regular attempt to assess T loudness will be very helpful. I'd
recommend that you simply reduce salicylates for a few weeks or so and then
ask yourself if you are distinctly better. If you aren't, then forgeet about
reducing salicylates. If you are distinctly better, then resume consuming
salicylates for a few weeks and see if you are distinctly worse. If you are,
then you might want to reduce salicylates.

Many foods with salicylates are healthy ones, and you don't want to
unnecessarily restrict your range of foods. Also, focusing on your tinnitus
level for weeks while trying a dietary cure can heighten your awareness of the
tinnitus and make it more intrusive. That's why i'd recommend just making the
changes in your diet in advance and forgetting about them (don't worry about
it when you eat--shop low-salicylate instead) until your three weeks or
whatever are up. Mark your calendar.
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john - 02 Nov 2004 00:00 GMT
Sounds like good advice.  It's not really a problem now, but if I dwell on
it, it could become one.

Trouble is, I might be better off fighiting off caffeine and seeing the
effects, as they may be greater than those in the rest of my diet.

Thanks,

John

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> it when you eat--shop low-salicylate instead) until your three weeks or
> whatever are up. Mark your calendar.
 
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