Elly Byrne <elly@eebee.cjb.net.noway> wrote in part:
>>Does anyone else get dizzy all the time with their T?
>>The ENT said I prob have menieres, but I dont get vertigo, I just feel
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>"You have got the diagnose Meniere´s disease.
>That is my speciality.
I assume that Dr. Bjorne doesn't mean that his specialty lies in diagnosing
Meniere's. He's a dentist, for thing. For another, to be able to recognize
meniere's, you need expertise in recognizing a wide range of other vestibular
(and non-vestibular medical) problems so that they can be ruled out.
>You find my published articles on www.yts.se
>I have examined at least 500 cases having got that diagnosis. In every
>case I have found a muscular tension in the jaw and neck causing the
>symptoms."
I recall looking at the site a year or so ago. It wasn't very clear about how
the patients were chosen. It sort of looked like they might have been chosen
because they had serious dental/jaw/neck problems.
If you read the literature on Meniere's, you are struck by the fact that many
well-respected MDs have declared that they have found the cause/cure for
Meniere's. There's at least one who has pulled that stunt twice! Mostly, this
has been due to doing studies without control groups. Meniere's patients have
a disease that gets really bad and then goes away, sometimes not coming back
for years. They tend to seek medical help when they are really, really bad. If
you treat them by whistling Dixie at them and then see how they are 6 months
later, lots of them will be much better. If you do a shoddy experiment to
start with, you can convince yourself you have the cure.
What Dr. Bjorne should do--in my humble opinion--is to do a properly-powered
study with a proper control group and using carefully defined selection
criteria and symptom measures. Then he can publish it. If he's right that he's
found the cause/cure, he will then be famous and all of us with Meniere's will
thank him.

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Elly Byrne - 11 Nov 2004 19:07 GMT
>I recall looking at the site a year or so ago. It wasn't very clear about how
>the patients were chosen. It sort of looked like they might have been chosen
>because they had serious dental/jaw/neck problems.
Have you ever asked him?
Tinnitus is a pain in the neck
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Jim Chinnis - 12 Nov 2004 02:24 GMT
Elly Byrne <elly@eebee.cjb.net.noway> wrote in part:
>>I recall looking at the site a year or so ago. It wasn't very clear about how
>>the patients were chosen. It sort of looked like they might have been chosen
>>because they had serious dental/jaw/neck problems.
>
>Have you ever asked him?
No. There seem to be many more interesting approaches to follow up on. Just
not enough time.
But actually I would like to see a peer-reviewed paper.

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Elly Byrne - 12 Nov 2004 19:25 GMT
>No. There seem to be many more interesting approaches to follow up on. Just
>not enough time.
Maybe you should. How long does it take?
>But actually I would like to see a peer-reviewed paper.
A peer reviewed paper would be reviewed by more dentists. That would
not impress the medical community.
Ask him.
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Elly Byrne - 13 Nov 2004 19:25 GMT
>Ask him.
I take that as a NO.
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Jim Chinnis - 13 Nov 2004 20:16 GMT
Elly Byrne <elly@eebee.cjb.net.noway> wrote in part:
>>Ask him.
>
>I take that as a NO.
Patience, Elly.
I will reread his website/papers so that i can actually write him a sensible
letter. Then i will write him with any questions I have, assuming that the
material I read raises any questions.
This is not really high on my list of priorities, but it will get done.

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Elly Byrne - 14 Nov 2004 19:22 GMT
>Patience, Elly.
>
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>This is not really high on my list of priorities, but it will get done.
Thank you Jim, I look forward to your opinion.
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Elly Byrne - 15 Nov 2004 19:36 GMT
Do most people think that because Assar is a dentist he only treats
TMJ?
This is not the case. He also checks for muscle tension, head posture,
spinal misfunction, stress etc.
All these things work together. Do you know any other dentists that do
this?
If I remember correctly Assar discovered that when he injected his
patients with an anaesthetic in the jaw muscle the tinnitus would go
away. He had the insight to follow that up and formulated his
treatment from that.
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>>Patience, Elly.
>>
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>Elly's Tinnitus Resources
>http://eebee.net/
> >Does anyone else get dizzy all the time with their T?
> >The ENT said I prob have menieres, but I dont get vertigo, I just feel
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> case I have found a muscular tension in the jaw and neck causing the
> symptoms."
I wrote to Dr. Assar several times and he replied. I think the
biggest benefit I got out from our correspondence was his suggestion
to me to perform chiropractic. It was through my neck being twisted
that I found a connection between my spine and a particular spot on
the left side of my head. I used to believe the pressure from that
spot was due to 'hydrop'. Now i am convinced it is from a compressed
nerve.
FP
> www.yts.se
>
> Tinnitus is a pain in the neck
> Elly's Tinnitus Resources
> http://eebee.net/