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ENTconsult - 19 Oct 2004 02:05 GMT

Long ago we learned here that the best asnwer for those who use profanity or
insults was to ignore them and above all, NEVER answer them.
Since this worked so well in the past, suggest you use it again. Do not answer
ro reply to those who use profanity or insults, period. With no one answering,
eventally they get no emotional return and they go elsewhere.

Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com

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Susan - 19 Oct 2004 02:14 GMT

>Long ago we learned here that the best asnwer for those who use profanity or
>insults was to ignore them and above all, NEVER answer them.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>answering,
>eventally they get no emotional return and they go elsewhere.

Amen.

Susan

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Jim Chinnis - 19 Oct 2004 02:34 GMT

entconsult@aol.comnospam (ENTconsult) wrote in part:

>Long ago we learned here that the best asnwer for those who use profanity or
>insults was to ignore them and above all, NEVER answer them.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Murray Grossan, M.D.
>http://www.ent-consult.com

Amen.

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Ben - 19 Oct 2004 13:20 GMT

I agree with you Murray, however, why are we all on this group? We are
*desperate* to find a "cure" for T, and when we have to accept there isn't
one, it becomes almost as annoying as the T itself, and definitely causes
people who suffer to be bad-tempered|? I think we need to be more tolerant
of any ideas people might put forward regarding a "cure", and not so
dismisive.

Ben

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Patty - 19 Oct 2004 15:13 GMT

> I agree with you Murray, however, why are we all on this group? We are
> *desperate* to find a "cure" for T, and when we have to accept there isn't
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>
> Ben

Amen! to what Murray posted. To answer your question, Ben, we are all here
for 'support' as there is NO cure for tinnitus. When we learn this fact, we
have two choices:

1. Accept it.
2. "Let it become almost as annoying as the T itself and cause us to be
'bad tempered'."

Yes, we can be more tolerant of any ideas put forward, BUT...we do not have
to tolerate the use of profanity or insults.

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Susan - 19 Oct 2004 16:05 GMT

>Yes, we can be more tolerant of any ideas put forward, BUT...we do not have
>to tolerate the use of profanity or insults.

We also have choices about how not to tolerate profanity and insults. The best
way, for preservation of a supportive group, is to ignore it. The worst way is
to engage in a long, distracting thread responding to it and/or objecting to
it.

IMO.

Susan

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ENTconsult - 19 Oct 2004 17:52 GMT

it becomes almost as annoying as the T itself, and definitely causes
people who suffer to be bad-tempered|?

that is not the problem. It is the name calling and foul language that self
aggrevates and increases the Tinnitus.
How can you convince yourself to relax when you are shouting foul words at
another? That makes your own tinnitus amplified.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com

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francispoon - 19 Oct 2004 19:21 GMT

> I agree with you Murray, however, why are we all on this group? We are
> *desperate* to find a "cure" for T, and when we have to accept there isn't
> one, it becomes almost as annoying as the T itself, and definitely causes
> people who suffer to be bad-tempered|? I think we need to be more tolerant
> of any ideas people might put forward regarding a "cure", and not so
> dismisive.

(1)I have met people whose tinnitus has been 'cured'.
(2)Between a cure and no cure, there is a wide range of 'treatment'
that could bring about improvement in terms of 'degrees'.
(3)It is conceivable for people don't want to talk about 'cure' but it
is inconceivable why they don't even entertain the idea of
improvement.

FP

> Ben

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