The next clinical trial I 'might' attempt, as a means of achieving
'all' good days in a week, is to take herbs from a formula given by
that director of traditional medicine college in Oregan.
http://216.109.117.135/search/cache?p=kidney+and+tinnitus&ei=UTF-8&cop=mss&toggl
e=1&u=www.itmonline.org/arts/tinmen.htm&w=kidney+tinnitus&d=79D762920C&icp=1&.in
tl=us
Since my tinnitus came out from a setting which is vividly described
as the 'type 1 t' in his website, I will take the following formula
meant for 'type 1' patients and talk to someone who knows what he is
doing. In particular, I will have the names of the herbs translated
into Chinese using a medical dictionary and ask for professional
opinions from a few registered TCM practitioners here in BC.
I think those of you who are interested in this type of treatment
should contact that director in the college of traditional medicine in
Oregan. Perhaps you could volunteer to be included in the sample used
for controlled studies. It should be 'free'! There is no guarantee
of a 'cure'. But if you could get improvement on your t, it would
mean that you would gain improvement on the internal organs of your
body, as this approach believes that your t sound is the symptom
signal sent to you by your body that something inside is not that
right! How safe is this? It is DEFINITELY safer than aprazolam or
ATIVAN, in my experience.
The following is the formula from his website:
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SAMPLE CLINICAL TRIAL
In the Chinese Journal of Integrated Traditional and Chinese Medicine
(4), a clinical trial for treatment of tinnitus was described. A basic
formula was designed, which would be modified for different types of
tinnitus. The basic formula contained:
polygonatum (huangjing) 40 grams
epimedium (yinyanghuo) 10 grams
cynomorium (suoyang) 10 grams
hu-chang (huzhang) 30 grams
persica (taoren) 10 grams
earthworm (dilong) 10 grams
This formula, which primarily treats the deficiency of spleen and
kidney with a heavy dose of polygonatum, differs from those described
in the Advanced Textbook by adding tonification for yang deficiency
(epimedium, cynomorium) as well as herbs for vitalizing circulation of
blood (persica and earthworm). Hu-chang helps treat heat and dampness,
as occurs in excess-type disorders; it is also used to promote blood
circulation, and it has been recognized as a remedy for tinnitus since
ancient times, having been mentioned for that purpose in the 7th
century book Qianjin Yaofang. These adjustments reflect the modern
physician's view that tinnitus often arises from a combination of yin
and yang deficiency and that the damage to the ear involves a blood
stasis syndrome (a disorder emphasized in Chinese clinical practice
during the past century, and mentioned by Sun Aihua).
For the tinnitus of type 1 described above, add to the basic formula:
chrysanthemum (juhua) 10 grams
prunella (kuxingcao) 15 grams
moutan (mudanpi) 10 grams
vitex (manjingzi) 10 grams
magnetite (cishi) 30 grams
These herbs quell the liver and gallbladder fire and settle the
agitated liver yang.
kidneystone - 18 Oct 2004 09:05 GMT
Yawn.... ;)
> The next clinical trial I 'might' attempt, as a means of achieving
> 'all' good days in a week, is to take herbs from a formula given by
> that director of traditional medicine college in Oregan.
http://216.109.117.135/search/cache?p=kidney+and+tinnitus&ei=UTF-8&cop=mss&t
oggle=1&u=www.itmonline.org/arts/tinmen.htm&w=kidney+tinnitus&d=79D762920C&i
cp=1&.intl=us
> Since my tinnitus came out from a setting which is vividly described
> as the 'type 1 t' in his website, I will take the following formula
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
> These herbs quell the liver and gallbladder fire and settle the
> agitated liver yang.
ENTconsult - 19 Oct 2004 01:44 GMT
earthworm?????????
do you mean earthworm?????
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
Jim Chinnis - 19 Oct 2004 02:33 GMT
entconsult@aol.comnospam (ENTconsult) wrote in part:
>earthworm?????????
>do you mean earthworm?????
>Murray Grossan, M.D.
Chinese earthworm. :-)

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francispoon - 19 Oct 2004 18:21 GMT
> earthworm?????????
> do you mean earthworm?????
Yes, write to that professor in Oregon and ask about it. I am not
sure if earthworms are found only in China. But I have tried other
things that are as weird.
Years ago, I had a skin disease. No conventional cure proved to be
useful. So one doctor prescribed me a recipee in which there were the
dried-up cicadas together with other herbs. The solution was quite
bitter and I had to take it with honey. But that was how it was
healed!
You may not find this to have any scientific principle behind it. But
then again, it might have a scientific character with which few of us
are familiar.
Let me give you an example. While I was in HK, a friend of mine is
from Germany. He always told me that he refused to believe in the
various properties that the TCM people talk about on food. OK. This
guy likes to eat all kinds of pan-fried foods. At the same time, he
had sore throats, gum inflamation, and constipation. Whenever the
ills took place, he went to see the doctor and have all kinds of
anti-biotics prescribed to him. I asked him to drink non-alcoholic
beer as a way to counter-act the excess of yang(fire) energy in his
body, as the beer contains a lot of Yin (water) element. That is a
classific example of energy balancing. He was finally convinced.
Actually, the principle of yin and yang is being practiced
subconsciously by a lof of North Americans without their realizing it.
They eat barbecued food and drink beer at the same time. Why don't
they have barbecued meat and drink hard liquor at the same time? It
is because subconsciously the body is doing its yin and yang
balancing, and hard liquor is Yang(fire)!
When the natives in the jungle of Latin America saw that the doctors
in NY placed Clinton on the table and cleaned up his blood vessels,
they also thought that the doctors in NY were practicing
voodoo/witchcraft too.
FP
> Murray Grossan, M.D.
> http://www.ent-consult.com
Ben - 18 Oct 2004 10:38 GMT
> How safe is this? It is DEFINITELY safer than aprazolam or
> ATIVAN, in my experience.
They do say ativan is as addictive, if not more so, than heroin, so you may
well be right Francis.
> The following is the formula from his website:
> earthworm (dilong) 10 grams
Bleah! I *hate* worms :P
One thing I don't understand about T is why it would vary if there is
something "wrong" with any part of the body? If there is something wrong
with the hairs in the ear, or even exposure to loud music, or whatever, then
how come the T noise varies?
Ben
Skycloud - 18 Oct 2004 15:00 GMT
> One thing I don't understand about T is why it would vary if there is
> something "wrong" with any part of the body? If there is something wrong
> with the hairs in the ear, or even exposure to loud music, or whatever, then
> how come the T noise varies?
>
> Ben
I've often wondered this too - when the T changes or even goes away
temporarily it's good for morale to realise the bl**dy noise - in this
case - can't be due to something that's broken.
To answer your question with some (ignorant) suggestions - perhaps tinnitus
can be caused by muscle tension pressure on the inner ear or auditory nerve,
or a change in blood/oxygen supply. These things could be vary according to
stress level, fatigue, hunger and other factors. The state of the autonomic
nervous system seems to play a role.
Here's a list of what makes my own T better - and worse. It's a strange
mixture. Make of it what you can...
----------------------------------------------------
T worsens with:
Auditory processing load (like listening to music)
Concentration on an intellectual or dextrous task
Late at night preparing to sleep
Droning sounds
Tension
Empty stomach
Bashing ears (!)
Certain locations (like sitting at my computer).
T improves with:
Extravert activity/ social engagement/ use of the telephone
Detinnitising sounds
Ginkgo Biloba
Relaxation
Ear cooling
Hearing amplification
-------------------------------------------------------
Cheers,
Steve O
Elly Byrne - 18 Oct 2004 22:02 GMT
>I've often wondered this too - when the T changes or even goes away
>temporarily it's good for morale to realise the bl**dy noise - in this
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>stress level, fatigue, hunger and other factors. The state of the autonomic
>nervous system seems to play a role.
How about tension in the neck and shoulder muscles?
Tinnitus is a pain in the neck
Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/
For email: elly at eebee.cjb.net
francispoon - 18 Oct 2004 19:44 GMT
> > How safe is this? It is DEFINITELY safer than aprazolam or
> > ATIVAN, in my experience.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> with the hairs in the ear, or even exposure to loud music, or whatever, then
> how come the T noise varies?
Ask that professor,not me. Write to him and ask.
======================
> Ben