This is not true as a rule.  In this specific instance, I was
referring to this guy who had nothing to say but just took a sentence
out of my post and  something out of context and made some silly
remarks.

FP

ironic isnt it? I start a thread with the subject apology..or (aplogy)
lol..and it ends up in an argument...ok.
drfrank21 wrote in message ...

Something is not necessarily true simply because you have just *said*
it. But for clarifying an issue, I find it necessary to focus on only
one, and I will leave the others aside if you don't mind.

How about only the following part extracted from what you wrote above:

You wrote:
"You do seem to be awfully closed-minded and intolerant at those who
don't jump at your off-the-wall treatment suggestions. And especially
intolerant at those who may ask for valid studies for treatment claims
or who warn others of quack therapies".
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OK...your argument is based on an  assumption which is infactual and
you step on this assumption to deliver the rest of your comment.  Your
assumption is:
***the methods of treatment are 'quack'***

Let us stick to this one and allow the non-quantifiable elements such
as anger, temperament, etc to stay off the way...OK?

For your information, each and every one of the treatments that I have
tried was prescribed to me by _licensed_ doctors.  Some of these
doctors were brought up in places like the ones that Jim Chinnis and
Murray went to and others went to colleges that approach medical
science from a slightly different angle.  That you have  called it
'quack' demonstrates (a)your lack of understanding of what it is, and
(b)your attitude towards something you don;t understand and/or are too
afraid to understand.

The combination of hyperbaric oxygen chamber and intravenous injection
was borrowed from the 'modern day' European doctors and is being
practiced by practically all the state hospitals in China.  At the
time of my onset, I was working as an expatriat in China and that was
the *only* treatment available from medical discipline of a western
nature.

If you called something 'quack' it would be because you are so sure
that it does not work!  I have seen it work in *some* people, though
at that time when I was going through it I was suffering from a 'mix'
and thus it was difficult for me to isolate this method for
evaluation.  I am still in touch with 2 individuals whom I met in the
same oxygen chamber about 10 months ago.  So far, their t sound has
not returned since they went for that treatment.  Go into Yahoo search
engine, you will find that this method of treatment is quite popular
in Europe. For you to have called this 'quack' reflects a certain
amount of ethnocentrcism in you.  The doctors in China did not invent
this method.  They learnt it from the European doctors.

Then let me go into the 'traditional', that is, the herb treatment and
accupuncture.  I am going through it and you are telling me that my
experience is unreal and that what I am experiencing is imaginary.
Who are you?  How have you managed to know 'online' how I am feeling?

I went to this one www.yongsheng.ca.  After the second treatment, my
body gave me signals to discontinue betahistine which I had been using
for almost 5 months, and after the third lasix which i had been on for
about 3 months.  Now, I am totally off both of them.  One could argue,
however, that perhaps the time my body wanted to get rid of these
medicines coincided with the time i went to see this accupuncturist.
And the point could have been taken with a sense of reserved
objectivity.  But why do you think that I lied to the group when I
talked about 'brain ring changed into ear ring or ring on the drum'
after taking gigo biloba?  Why don't you believe when I described the
tone of my t sound being softened after the needle treatments, and the
head pressure off?  Are you living inside my skull and noticing that I
am not feeling what I am 'supposed' to feel?

I have just posted this link:
http://216.109.117.135/search/cache?p=kidney+and+tinnitus&ei=UTF-8&cop=mss&toggl
e=1&u=www.itmonline.org/arts/tinmen.htm&w=kidney+tinnitus&d=79D762920C&icp=1&.in
tl=us

This is a brilliant article in which the author demonstrates how
modern medical methods could be used to test traditional medicines.  I
am so amazed that none of you has even responded to it.  There is a
'controlled' study inside.  Yes, there is.  Read it!  This professor
is teaching in Oregon.  Have you thought of talking to this professor,
or becoming one of the sample he uses for study?  During the onset of
my t, I was prescribed herbs by a TCM doctor.  By drinking the herb
solution each day, the t sound disappeared.  I should have sticked to
it if I had known what a horrific ill t was.  But making the herb
solution was so troublesome and time-consuming.  So I went to try out
aprazolam that was so highly glorified in a doctor's website.  It was
the stupidest thing i ever did!!!  I almost became an addict without
being able to get out.  Ativan was no quack, surely.

Rather than accusing me for spreading 'quack', you might want to think
of a possibility.  It is the possibility that many of you are becoming
like the Chinese a few hundred years back when they rejected anything
'foreign' and did so with a closed mind.  There was a time when the
Chinese were on top of the world and they were so technologically
advanced to the point that the king  sent a fleet to travel to many
parts of the world.  By the time when the captains came home, they
told the king that there was nothing to learn from the 'barbarians'.
Being contented, the Chinese went to sleep for a couple of hundred
years until they finally woke up and discovered that the high tech
warships of the 'barbarians' were knocking on their doors.

I was once a foreign student in the US.  I seem to think the
innovative Americans at that time are not there any more, at least not
in this group.  Is this a sign that the American empire is getting
old?

Beware, what happened in the past history could repeat itself!

FP