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francispoon - 16 Oct 2004 19:53 GMT
_Sound masking_ is now considered one of the better techniques to
treat tinnitus.  But sound masking could have started out as what
might have been interpreted by the simple folks of the modern world as
a 'witchcraft' and might have been placed on the list of
'quackwatchers'.

It was recorded in splendid details, hundreds if not thousands of
years ago, how the tinnitus patients in China were made to sit under
large trees in hot summer days where they could listen to the
'chirping of cicadas'.  And it was discovered that patients did get
improvement on their tinnitus after such kind of 'witchcraft'
treatment.

Cicadas is an insect; the size of which is about that of our thumb.
They can be found in many parts of tropical Asia, including Australia.
When they make sound as a group, the sound is of an extremely high
pitched tone and could be heard over miles. The chirping of cicada
mimic that of the tinnitus sound.

Nowadays, we no longer need to listen to the 'chirping of cicadas', as
we have the electronic hearing aids to make the sound.  But the
principle is the same.
What started out as a 'traditional', 'alternative', 'quack/witchcraft'
practice is now being embraced by the modern medical establishment as
the 'conventional' method.

FP
Susan - 17 Oct 2004 01:15 GMT
>What started out as a 'traditional', 'alternative', 'quack/witchcraft'
>practice is now being embraced by the modern medical establishment as
>the 'conventional' method.

Francis, some folks here are open to the more established and meritorious
components of alternative medicine.  Some others aren't, and never will be.
You're not going to win a battle along these lines, and support groups function
best if we choose battles carefully, in order to remain kind to one another.

Please try to spend less time here on trying to make everyone agree with you.
It won't work, and it's very tiresome for all concerned.

Susan <uses some herbs, supplements and has benefited from acupuncture for
problems other than tinnitus>
ENTconsult - 18 Oct 2004 05:13 GMT
actually you don't have to sit under a tree to hear crickets. They sell them in
cages in all the markets in china. But they are sold more for "pets" than for
treatment.
I don"t know why you consider maskng as an "alternative " treatment. The med
journasal articles on masking go back to the days of the tuning fork and the
audiometer.  In the ancient temples of healing - Greek, Roman, flute music was
the favorite therapy. Also sleeping by the waves.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
francispoon - 18 Oct 2004 19:48 GMT
> actually you don't have to sit under a tree to hear crickets.

Not crickets, but CICADAS.  Crickets are bought for contest but not as
pets.  People gamble with cricket contests.

They sell them in
> cages in all the markets in china. But they are sold more for "pets" than for
> treatment. > I don"t know why you consider maskng as an "alternative " treatment.

Thank you for telling me.  I am not going to pay Can$4000 for that
SoundidEar hearing aid.

The med journasal articles on masking go back to the days of the
tuning fork and the
> audiometer.  In the ancient temples of healing - Greek, Roman, flute music was
> the favorite therapy. Also sleeping by the waves.

Charping from cicadas is a lot better, imo.  It mimics exactly the T
sound in my head.
> Murray Grossan, M.D.
> http://www.ent-consult.com
ENTconsult - 19 Oct 2004 01:40 GMT
Charping from cicadas is a lot better, imo.  It mimics exactly the T
sound in my head.

try the TV .
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
francispoon - 19 Oct 2004 20:03 GMT
> Charping from cicadas is a lot better, imo.  It mimics exactly the T
> sound in my head.
>
> try the TV .

Next time when you are in China, ask your friends to bring you to
where the cicadas charp. You will agree with me wholeheartedly.  And
ask your Chinese students/professors to show you the things you have
not run into in this part of the world.  By the time you come back
from China, you will become less skeptical of the things you have not
experienced.

FP

> Murray Grossan, M.D.
> http://www.ent-consult.com
ENTconsult - 20 Oct 2004 05:10 GMT
By the time you come back
from China, you will become less skeptical of the things you have not
experienced.
Actually I have lectured in China several times.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
francispoon - 20 Oct 2004 19:36 GMT
> By the time you come back
> from China, you will become less skeptical of the things you have not
> experienced.
> Actually I have lectured in China several times.

Go into the less developed parts of the country.  Don't just confine
yourself to fancy, developed and modernized/westernized places such as
Shangshai or Peking.  When you go into villages, you will hear the
sound of CICADAS.  It is continuous and high-pitched.

FP
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> Murray Grossan, M.D.
> http://www.ent-consult.com
francispoon - 20 Oct 2004 20:20 GMT
entconsult@aol.comnospam (ENTconsult) wrote in message
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> Actually I have lectured in China several times.

I think you must be one of the 'foreign' doctors that brought
hyperbaric oxygen/intravenous injection treatment to the Chinese much
to the disapprovement of the Anglo-American medical establishment in
the US.

The Chinese doctor that treated me applied a solution extracted from a
plant root and did so for intravenous injection.  I think it is meant
for blood vessel dilation.   I know 2 newbies that got 'cured' that
way but mine was relatively old.  I heard that within about 15 days
after the discovery of t, the chance of a cure is much greater.

At this moment, for about 3-4 days out of a week, I feel 'cured'.  How
to make all days in a week 'cured' is my next intellectual endeavor.

FP


> Murray Grossan, M.D.
> http://www.ent-consult.com
 
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