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Ben - 05 Sep 2004 21:53 GMT
If it wasn't sad this would be funny, or at least strange?

On August the 16th my mother died suddenly.  The shock I received was like a
1000 volt electric shock going through my body, but the T went absolutely
quiet for several days.  It came back of course :(  Then due to family
squabbling and someone hurting me so badly, I received akin to another 800
volt shock - the T went dead quiet again!

So - why do docs and many others say stress causes T?  I couldn't have been
more stressed.  A shock a day keeps the T away? :)

Ben
Howard N. Gutnick - 06 Sep 2004 03:33 GMT
I don't think stress, per se, causes T. I do think that it exacerbates a
pre-existing T.

HNG

> If it wasn't sad this would be funny, or at least strange?
>
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>
> Ben
Ben - 06 Sep 2004 15:16 GMT
"Howard N. Gutnick" <hgutnick@hotmail.com> wrote in
> I don't think stress, per se, causes T. I do think that it exacerbates a
> pre-existing T.

I couldn't have felt more stressed, yet my T went silent, though I have had
it for nearly 14 years!

Ben
ENTconsult - 07 Sep 2004 05:37 GMT
Similarly, the T patient left her husband to be in the hospital with her very
sick mother, 1,000 miles away. Several times her husband called to find out how
mother was.
About the 7th day the husband asked how her T was. She had forgotten all about
it, but now that he asked, it was back.
The brain can be distracted or concentrate on only one thing at a time.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
francispoon - 06 Sep 2004 04:38 GMT
> If it wasn't sad this would be funny, or at least strange?
>
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> So - why do docs and many others say stress causes T?  I couldn't have been
> more stressed.  A shock a day keeps the T away? :)

I could tell you what my Chinese herbal doctor told me about this.
But that kind of explanation is oftentimes laughed at by those who
think they know everything.

According to my doctor, the emotion of a person affects the energy
field in his lever and kidney, which bear a close relationship to our
cochlea.

FP

> Ben
Ben - 06 Sep 2004 15:17 GMT
> I could tell you what my Chinese herbal doctor told me about this.
> But that kind of explanation is oftentimes laughed at by those who
> think they know everything.

Never let others try to dictate what helps you, or what you believe in
Francis!

> According to my doctor, the emotion of a person affects the energy
> field in his lever and kidney, which bear a close relationship to our
> cochlea.

I will look into it - thanks!

Ben
francispoon - 07 Sep 2004 18:12 GMT
> > I could tell you what my Chinese herbal doctor told me about this.
> > But that kind of explanation is oftentimes laughed at by those who
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>
> I will look into it - thanks!

Ever since I took gingko, my t has been transformed from a brain ring
into an ear ring or ring on the drum of the ear.  I was wondering why
until the doctor told me that ginkgo improves blood circulation in the
kidney.  You may want to go into the search engine and check this out.
There was an article done by a British scientist that discovered a
close relationship between the kidney and the cochlea.  The Chinese
herb doctors started calling tinnitus a kidney disease about 2000
years ago.

FP

> Ben
Elly Byrne - 07 Sep 2004 21:30 GMT
>I was wondering why
>until the doctor told me that ginkgo improves blood circulation in the
>kidney.

Any medication does not focus on just one part of the body. It affects
the whole body.

If Ginko improves the blood circulation in the kidney, then it
improves blood circulation in the whole body.

Same goes for a diuretic.

Tinnitus is a pain in the neck
Elly's Tinnitus Resources
http://eebee.net/

For email: elly at eebee.cjb.net
RogeR - 07 Sep 2004 12:11 GMT
> I could tell you what my Chinese herbal doctor told me about this.
> But that kind of explanation is oftentimes laughed at by those who
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> field in his lever and kidney, which bear a close relationship to our
> cochlea.

No, no, no... It's simple really. When you have a lot on your mind you
don't have the time to think about your T. I never notice my T when I do
stuff, only when it's dead quiet or I sit down and actually listen for
it or think about it.

Simple explanation.
Smarty pants - 07 Sep 2004 15:06 GMT
>> I could tell you what my Chinese herbal doctor told me about this.
>> But that kind of explanation is oftentimes laughed at by those who
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>
> Simple explanation.

Yep, same with me.  Took a while to get there, having first to try ginkgo
etc. and talk endlessly about it.  Now I just hear it when I listen for it.
Bob - 15 Sep 2004 08:31 GMT
>>No, no, no... It's simple really. When you have a lot on your mind you
>>don't have the time to think about your T. I never notice my T when I do
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> Yep, same with me.  Took a while to get there, having first to try ginkgo
> etc. and talk endlessly about it.  Now I just hear it when I listen for it.

My T started a few months ago with an ear infection, now gone. It comes
and goes, mostly quite mild.

Best (inadvertent) advice I've gotten.

I mentioned T to a friend, who said he's had it for years. A few weeks
later, I asked if his T fluctuated. He said, "until you first asked me
about it, I'd forgotten for 15 years that I have it."
Jim Chinnis - 06 Sep 2004 16:19 GMT
"Ben" <hand.knitter@ntlworld.com> wrote in part:

>If it wasn't sad this would be funny, or at least strange?
>
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>
>Ben

Sorry for your loss and woes, but I've often said that stress can reduce
tinnitus. I recall a discussion here with a Zen fellow, in which he argued
that encountering a grizzly in the woods would send his tinnitus through the
roof. My guess is that I woulkd be completely free of tinnitus while
confronting the bear.

There are a lot of physiological changes that take place with stress. If you
seem to be very dramatically affected by it, you might mention it to your
doctor. Sometimes there can be borderline endocrine problems that cause
tinnitus, and the tinnitus can be relieved by treating them.
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Jim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA
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Ben - 06 Sep 2004 21:28 GMT
> Sorry for your loss and woes, but I've often said that stress can reduce
> tinnitus. I recall a discussion here with a Zen fellow, in which he argued
> that encountering a grizzly in the woods would send his tinnitus through the
> roof. My guess is that I woulkd be completely free of tinnitus while
> confronting the bear.

Thanks Jim.  I suppose the shock makes you forget to listen to the T for a
while?

> There are a lot of physiological changes that take place with stress. If you
> seem to be very dramatically affected by it, you might mention it to your
> doctor. Sometimes there can be borderline endocrine problems that cause
> tinnitus, and the tinnitus can be relieved by treating them.

I have mild hyperthryoidism, but the anti-thryoid drugs do nowt for the T -
pah!

Ben

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