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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / August 2004Tinnitus sound and heart beat
I have in a week 4 good days and 3 bad days. A bad day is characterized by T sound reminiscient of electrical discharge and faster heart beat. Is there anything that could be done about it aside from habituation? Tks., FP > I have in a week 4 good days and 3 bad days. A bad day is > characterized by T sound reminiscient of electrical discharge and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > FP Have you had an EKG to rule out a heart problem? Or, is the increase in heart beat associated with anxiety over the 'bad T day'? I thought your gingko, kidney rejuvenation, acupuncture and hyperbaric treatments were helping you, Francis. ~Patty~ > > I have in a week 4 good days and 3 bad days. A bad day is > > characterized by T sound reminiscient of electrical discharge and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > gingko, kidney rejuvenation, acupuncture and hyperbaric treatments were > helping you, Francis. Yes, in degrees, it is much lighter now than before. And prior to the use of gingko, it was a brain ring and now a drum ring. The improvement could not have come about through sheer habituation. FP =============================================== ================================= > ~Patty~ > > > I have in a week 4 good days and 3 bad days. A bad day is > > > characterized by T sound reminiscient of electrical discharge and [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > FP A "drum ring" huh? If I were you, Francis, I think I'd try the black beans again and if that doesn't help, go back to intravenous herb injections. Those were helping you every bit as much as the hyperbaric treatments and ginkgo. If the side effects don't accumulate, consider eating black beans laced with ginkgo while receiving the herb infusion in a hyperbaric chamber. Report back. > > "Patty" <seahawk1@hotpop.com> wrote in message > news:<cfobuo$usa$1@news3.infoave.net>... [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Report back. Listen, your f.cking azz, if you had found a solution for your own T, that would be wonderful. But stop prescribing solution for all and ridiculing others for trying medical treatments. That entity known as human body is more complex than your few words could describe and analyze. If everyone had followed your advice, they would have done away with the need for medicine and doctors. You are no doctor but only one of the suffers. What works you may not work for others, and what has worked for others may not worked for you. If you continued to operate with this dogmatic style, you soon would be another Nagler in this group. FP > > "Patty" <seahawk1@hotpop.com> wrote in message > news:<cfobuo$usa$1@news3.infoave.net>... [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Report back. Listen, you f.cking azz. What works for you may not work for others, and what has worked for others may not work for you. That is the fact of life. If you had found something that works for you, that would be wonderful. But stop prescribing your solution for all and ridiculing others for trying out medical treatment. That entity known as 'human body' is more complex than your few words could describe and analyze. You are no doctor. If you kept practicing your style in this ng like a street delinquent, you would soon be on your way to becoming another dogmatic Nagler in this group. =========================== > > "Patty" <seahawk1@hotpop.com> wrote in message > news:<cfobuo$usa$1@news3.infoave.net>... [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Report back. Listen, you f.cking azz. What works for you may not work for others, and what has worked for others may not work for you. That is the fact of life. If you had found something that works for you, that would be wonderful. But stop prescribing your solution for all and ridiculing others for trying out medical treatment. That entity known as 'human body' is more complex than your few words could describe and analyze. You are no doctor. If you kept practicing your style in this ng like a street delinquent, you would soon be on your way to becoming another dogmatic Nagler in this group. =========================== > > "Patty" <seahawk1@hotpop.com> wrote in message > news:<cfobuo$usa$1@news3.infoave.net>... [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Report back. Listen, you f.cking azz. What works for you may not work for others, and what has worked for others may not work for you. That is the fact of life. If you had found something that works for you, that would be wonderful. But stop prescribing your solution for all and ridiculing others for trying out medical treatment. That entity known as 'human body' is more complex than your few words could describe and analyze. You are no doctor. If you kept practicing your style in this ng like a street delinquent, you would soon be on your way to becoming another dogmatic Nagler in this group. =========================== <snip> > > A "drum ring" huh? If I were you, Francis, I think I'd try the black beans > > again and if that doesn't help, go back to intravenous herb injections. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > a street delinquent, you would soon be on your way to becoming another > dogmatic Nagler in this group. All of the "cures" I mentioned, the ones the provoked your disguised vulgarity, were yours. None of them worked, just as we predicted when you first brought them up. You see, Francis, some of us have been hanging around this group for years. We have watched these useless (and sometimes costly) "cures" debated over and over again. We tried to tell you they wouldn't work but no, you wouldn't listen. If you need someone to focus your frustration on, that might as well be me. Just remember, all I ever wanted was help you habituate your tinnitus. My tinnitus is by no measure "cured" but I have seven good days each week. You can too, if you are willing to give it a try. > <snip> > > > A "drum ring" huh? If I were you, Francis, I think I'd try the black [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > costly) "cures" debated over and over again. We tried to tell you they > wouldn't work but no, you wouldn't listen. Who are *you* to tell me what I should or should not do? Are you a doctor? Are you a medical authority on tinnitus? When I went through all that treatments, it was the doctors that prescribed them to me and have done so with varying results. Some worked well while some poorly and some did nothing constructive. But at the moment when the doctors made their judgements, that was the best they could have made and they could not have made them any better. Who are you to tell me *how* I should have reacted to these treatments and who are you to say whether or not they worked or not? I as a patient could tell what works and what doesn't for *me*. I lately just had 2 needle treatments from a registered accupuncturist here in British Columbia of Canada. At this moment, the migratory headache that used to bother me has now been reduced by 90%! Who are you to say that my head discomfort was 'imaginary' and could have been dealt with through habituation? There is nothing mysterious about habituation. But it is much easier to habituate without the discomfort than with. You might have happened to have only the sound but not the discomfort but that is just *your* case. There are other T patients that are suffering from both. And these patients need *medical* treatments aside from habituation. Even Jim Chinnis in this group once suspected I was suffering from seisure-related tinnitus, which could have been treated with an anti-tranquilizer. I had been suffering from what might have been the 'hydrop' symptoms until I followed the advice of Murrary or the ENT Consultant in this group and used diuretic to resolve the discomfort. So just who are *you* to say that they are all wrong and just habituation is sufficient? I have seen how other patients have reacted positively to hyperbaric oxygen treatment but unfortunately it did not do much for me. So please kindly refrain from your dogmatism! Your attitude may affect other new tinnitus suffers and delay the time required to take care of their ill. And remember: what has worked for you may not work for others. You should have learnt this basic fact of life in high school. FP =============================== > If you need someone to focus your frustration on, that might as well be me. > Just remember, all I ever wanted was help you habituate your tinnitus. My > tinnitus is by no measure "cured" but I have seven good days each week. You > can too, if you are willing to give it a try.
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