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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Tinnitus / July 2004

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The relevance of a controlled study.

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francispoon - 27 Jul 2004 08:18 GMT
If anyone refuses to try a treatment for tinnitus unless it is a
proven success through a controlled study, then welcome to the world
of aprazolam.  I once tried that(Ativan) and it successfully turned me
into a drug addict.  It was a condition from which I was almost unable
to get out.

Thus in evaluating a new treatment or medicine, under the doctor's
guidance, of course, the preferred strategy should not focus upon the
'nature' of the study but shoudd be upon the _reversibility of
consequences_.  That is to say, if you tried something and the
consequences were REVERSIBLE, then the decision making process should
be quick.  On the other hand, if the consequences were hardly
reversible or even irreversible, then think twice or even three times
before you leap.

In my view, and experience too, all that 'voodoo' medicines/methods I
have mentioned in this ng command consequences that are far less
irreversible than that from ATIVAN.  That choice is yours!

FP
Smarty pants - 27 Jul 2004 14:55 GMT
> If anyone refuses to try a treatment for tinnitus unless it is a
> proven success through a controlled study, then welcome to the world
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>
> FP

Yes, the choice is ours.  Since none of them cure tinnitus anyway, why not
simply skip them and get on with habituation?
Ben - 27 Jul 2004 20:53 GMT
> Yes, the choice is ours.  Since none of them cure tinnitus anyway, why not
> simply skip them and get on with habituation?

Suffering from T for 13 and a half years and I am still not "habituated"!

Ben
Smarty pants - 27 Jul 2004 23:07 GMT
> > Yes, the choice is ours.  Since none of them cure tinnitus anyway, why not
> > simply skip them and get on with habituation?
>
> Suffering from T for 13 and a half years and I am still not "habituated"!
>
> Ben

What have you done about your tinnitus, Ben?  Mine is as loud as ever, maybe
even louder.  I just ignore it.  I hear it now and it is just screaming,
this time the high-pitch scream of escaping steam.. Until I read your
message, and listened for it, I didn't notice it all.  Maybe it's just
easier for me.  When I was young I habituated the sound of screaming
children in fairly short order.  I live near a railroad station and rarely
hear the train going by unless someone mentions it.  In fact, I can
concentrate on something to such an extent I sometimes don't hear people
address me.  All of the things I mentioned are related to tinnitus
habituation.  It's not a cure, but its a comfort.   If I'm still around when
a cure is found, I probably wouldn't partake in it if there were significant
side effects so I'm certainly not going to fool around with anything
supported only by some pretty iffy anecdotal evidence.
Glynne Gilmore - 28 Jul 2004 00:55 GMT
>>Yes, the choice is ours.  Since none of them cure tinnitus anyway, why not
>>simply skip them and get on with habituation?
>
> Suffering from T for 13 and a half years and I am still not "habituated"!

Snap_crackle_pop wrote a thoughtful response to my non-habituation
status, and after mulling over his response, I think the potential
*degree* of habituation varies from individual to individual just as the
cause and severity of tinnitus vary among sufferers. Perhaps those who
habituate to a greater degree over time possess a greater power of
concentration to "tune out" by keeping busy or preoccupied. Perhaps
those of us who seem to be more sensitive in general, have a low
threshold of pain, or who are not particularly stress hardy, find a
greater degree of habituation more difficult to achieve.

Glynne
Jim Chinnis - 28 Jul 2004 02:25 GMT
Glynne Gilmore <glynnegilmore@netscape.net> wrote in part:

>x-no-archive: yes
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>Glynne

And maybe tinnitus differs in ways we don't understand yet.
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Jim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA
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snap_crackle_pop - 28 Jul 2004 02:34 GMT
> Glynne Gilmore <glynnegilmore@netscape.net> wrote in part:
>
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>
> And maybe tinnitus differs in ways we don't understand yet.

Indeed.  One thing I've observed on this list is that everyone has a
different story.  Perhaps sharing "tinnitus" denies us the status of
being unique, but the testimony I've read here seems remarkably varied
to the degree of multitude.  And, that is what makes the subject of
tinnitus so frustrating and interesting at the same time.

Thank you, Glynne.

Best,

scp
francispoon - 28 Jul 2004 02:35 GMT
> > Yes, the choice is ours.  Since none of them cure tinnitus anyway, why not
> > simply skip them and get on with habituation?
>
> Suffering from T for 13 and a half years and I am still not "habituated"!

You may want to look into whether or not you are suffering from
somatic discomfort together with the noise.  My experience has been
that once the somatic discomfort is off the road, habituation becomes
a natural extension of my daily affairs.  Talk to a doctor about this.

FP
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> Ben
 
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