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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Sinusitis / October 2004sinusitis, fungus and intestines
I've been reading a bit about fungus and IBS and how it relates to allergic reactions. One theory suggested that if the bowels become overtaken with fungus that immune system goes crazy trying to fight it off, which can cause allergies to fungus based substances. Now if that is the case that would make sense that sinusitis could be a fungal problem like the mayo clinic suggests. They claim in certain individuals (they don't know who) that the immune system overreacts to normally occurring fungus in the sinuses. This can cause sinusitis/nasal polyps. What if this was because in these individuals, they had systemic fungal infections? > I've been reading a bit about fungus and IBS and how it > relates to allergic reactions. I thought the latest theory was that IBS might be caused by an imbalance of bacteria in the bowel, not fungus.  SignatureSteven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. >> I've been reading a bit about fungus and IBS and how it >> relates to allergic reactions. > > I thought the latest theory was that IBS might be caused by an imbalance > of bacteria in the bowel, not fungus. That might be the latest but there is plenty of talk about IBS and fungus. Quite possible that IBS has multiple causes just like many believe about sinusitis. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ibs+fungus&btnG=Google+Search >>> I've been reading a bit about fungus and IBS and how it >>> relates to allergic reactions. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ibs+fungus&btnG=Google+Search I tried this URL, but all the hits it returned seemed to come from the world of "alternative" medicine. I didn't see any scientific studies from research institutions that suggested a connection between IBS and fungus. Nor did I see any mainstream gastroenterologists who claimed that IBS and fungus are related. SignatureSteven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. >>>> I've been reading a bit about fungus and IBS and how it >>>> relates to allergic reactions. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > fungus. Nor did I see any mainstream gastroenterologists who claimed > that IBS and fungus are related. Nope... Just like 15 years ago you wouldn't have found anything relating bacteria and ulcers except by the "quacks". >>>>> I've been reading a bit about fungus and IBS and how it >>>>> relates to allergic reactions. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Nope... Just like 15 years ago you wouldn't have found anything > relating bacteria and ulcers except by the "quacks". That is not true. The theory that H. Pylori was responsible for ulcers, was first put forth by a reputable pathologist, Dr. Robin Warren, in conjunction with a physician colleague, Dr. Robin Marshall. Together they spent 10 years doing real, legitimate, peer-reviewed scientific research to prove their theory. It just took a long time to amass sufficiently convincing scientific evidence, that's all. That's quite different from some publicly accessible website putting out some half-baked theory, totally unsupported by any peer-reviewed scientific research, immediately followed by a pitch for some alleged remedy to be foisted on desperate ill people. "But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown." -- Carl Sagan SignatureSteven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. >>>>>> I've been reading a bit about fungus and IBS and how it >>>>>> relates to allergic reactions. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > scientific research, immediately followed by a pitch for some alleged > remedy to be foisted on desperate ill people. I'm sure there were plenty calling them quacks at the time. Look at how many people call Dr. Mirkin a quack. My wife did a research paper in pharmacy school on ulcers 15-20 years ago. From the papers she read, she proposed that bacteria caused ulcers. Her professor gave her a D saying it was complete nonsense. unclers <snip> > That's quite different from some publicly accessible website putting out > some half-baked theory, totally unsupported by any peer-reviewed > scientific research, immediately followed by a pitch for some alleged > remedy to be foisted on desperate ill people. Also I'd like to add that the nasal fungal theory is called quackery by many ent's. But lets say it is true. Lets say that the immune system for some reason is attacking normally occurring fungus in the sinuses of some individuals. Seems logical to me that the immune response could be brought on by a fungal infection somewhere else in the body. I know that if I ingest something that I am allergic to my body can react. All theories, quacks, and professionals aside... what would your arguement be against a connection based on what you know about the immune system? > Nope... Just like 15 years ago you wouldn't have found anything > relating bacteria and ulcers except by the "quacks". Jens Ponikau from Mayo Clinic would agree with you: http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/search-bool.html and search "Ponikau" under "inventor name" to see all his patents. United States Patent 6,555,566 Ponikau April 29, 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Methods and materials for treating and preventing inflammation of mucosal tissue Abstract The invention involves methods and materials for treating and preventing non-invasive fungus-induced mucositis. Specifically, the invention involves administrating an antifungal agent such that it contact mucus in an amount, at a frequency, and for a duration effective to prevent, reduce, or eliminate non-invasive fungus-induced rhinosinusitis. This invention also provides methods and materials for diagnosing non-invasive fungus-induced rhinosinusitis and culturing non-invasive fungus from a mammalian mucus sample as well as specific antifungal formulations and medical devices for treating and preventing non-invasive fungus-induced rhinosinusitis. In addition, the invention provides methods and materials for treating and preventing other non-invasive fungus-induced mucositis conditions such as chronic otitis media, chronic colitis, and Crohn's disease. Further, the invention involves methods and materials for treating and preventing chronic asthma symptoms.
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