>>Wondering if there could be some adverse effect of having high sodium
>>intake on inflammation in the sinuses? Maybe even like 'edema' of the
>>mucous membranes or turbinates? Anyone got any input on this idea?
>
>I don't like the idea of all that sodium either and that is oen reason I do not
>irrigate as such. However I do go swimming a lot, which has a similar effect.
Hello,
Because of my high blood pressure i donot cotton to the
salt irrigation too much although i sometimes use it,
however my favorite and easiest is Listerine . . . (:
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MS - 17 Oct 2004 05:47 GMT
> Hello,
> Because of my high blood pressure i donot cotton to the
> salt irrigation too much although i sometimes use it,
> however my favorite and easiest is Listerine . . . (:
You irrigate with Listerine????? Straight? One would think that would be
much more irritating than using saline!
I gargle with Listerine. (Actually, usually generic version of it.) But I
couldn't imagine irrigating with it. I have used a few teaspoons of Alkalol
in my irrigation water, as some have recommended (I really can't say that
it's helped at all), and that has some ingredients similar to Listerine, but
not as strong.
> >Wondering if there could be some adverse effect of having high sodium
> >intake on inflammation in the sinuses? Maybe even like 'edema' of the
> >mucous membranes or turbinates? Anyone got any input on this idea?
>
> I don't like the idea of all that sodium either and that is oen reason I do not
> irrigate as such. However I do go swimming a lot, which has a similar effect.
Did you stop irrigating, Don? Or did you never do it regularly? (I thought I
read that you did, but I might not recall correctly.) Did your ENT recommend
that you not irrigate?
I don't think I could survive without irrigating. My nose and sinuses and
throat gets so filled and clogged with very thick tenacious mucous, that I'd
be miserable without it.
The irrigation is a hassle. I spend hours each day on it. Because after
irrigating, I have to shake my head in all different ways over the bathtub
to get all the stuff out, as even after washing it out with two 1000 ml
Waterpik tankfuls, there is still gunk stuck in there, although loosened by
the irrigation, that comes out with shaking. Usually this twice a day, with
more minor ways of irrigating (such as squeeze bottle, or even using
non-preserved saline solution for contact lenses directly in the nose) in
between.
Yet, if this could be true, that all the irrigating, salt, etc. irritates
the sinuses and nasal linings, causing more inflammation, mucus production,
etc., perhaps it is part of the problem. Yet it would be hard to stop, as I
would be miserably clogged up with gunk all the time if I didn't wash it
out.
(I don't subscribe to the theory, btw, that pulsatile irrigation "restores
the cilia" so that they work better naturally to clean the nose, etc. At
least that certainly hasn't worked for me. But irrigation sure can clean out
the sticky gunk, better than anything I know.)
Don Brady - 17 Oct 2004 11:42 GMT
>Did you stop irrigating, Don? Or did you never do it regularly? (I thought I
>read that you did, but I might not recall correctly.)
I have never irrigated regularly. I did try it maybe twice. I do sometimes
mention irrigation to people, merrely by way of passing along common advise
that is given by others here.
>Did your ENT recommend
>that you not irrigate?
No but he said he did not think it would be necessary in my case at least.
>I don't think I could survive without irrigating. My nose and sinuses and
>throat gets so filled and clogged with very thick tenacious mucous, that I'd
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>non-preserved saline solution for contact lenses directly in the nose) in
>between.
I do swim a lot and I know what you mean as the stuff does drain out afterward.
>Yet, if this could be true, that all the irrigating, salt, etc. irritates
>the sinuses and nasal linings, causing more inflammation, mucus production,
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>least that certainly hasn't worked for me. But irrigation sure can clean out
>the sticky gunk, better than anything I know.)
Yes I think it is probably helpful for many people.
ARoberts - 17 Oct 2004 22:56 GMT
> (I don't subscribe to the theory, btw, that pulsatile irrigation "restores
> the cilia" so that they work better naturally to clean the nose, etc. At
> least that certainly hasn't worked for me. But irrigation sure can clean out
> the sticky gunk, better than anything I know.)
I agree. I haven't seen sufficient evidence that pultatile irrigation can
coax moribund cilia into action, but the cleansing action is worth it...