Forceful Irrigation

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Jacko - 27 Sep 2004 21:03 GMT

I haven't found the Grossan irrigator around here, so I use a bottle and cap
put out by Neil. I use a really forceful squirt and wonder if this is
harmful to the cilia. Unbelievable the mucous that sometimes comes out.
Right now I'm having some frontal sinus aches when I tap above my
eyes, but the mucous is not at all colored.
I'd appreciate some input on my condition.
Thanks. Jacko

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Steven D. Litvintchouk - 28 Sep 2004 00:58 GMT

> I haven't found the Grossan irrigator around here, so I use a bottle and cap
> put out by Neil. I use a really forceful squirt and wonder if this is
> harmful to the cilia.

It's not harmful to the cilia, but you are blasting the water into your
sinuses and Eustachian tubes, where it won't drain easily.

Try irrigating more gently, but with more saline and for a longer period
of time.

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Johnny1000@webtv.net - 28 Sep 2004 02:15 GMT

Jacko... I think the idea of the irrigation is to help the body help
itself. ...You irrigate to facilitate drainage, and in the process you
encourage the cilia to do their job. ...What you don't want to do is
force that material back in by using too much pressure. Water-piks are
available in practically every drug store. ...Buy one, then go on line
and do a search for hydromed in LA. You can buy Dr. Grossans adapter
over the internet from them for next to nothing. ...Jon

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ENTconsult - 29 Sep 2004 03:51 GMT

The whole point of using the Hydro Pulse is that the pressure is regulated LOW.
High pressure AND forceful blowing both can damage the nose and ears. When you
set the Hydro Pulse so that the stream is about one inch high, that is the
right pressure. Higher than that is the wrong pressure.
You DON"T want to force fluid through your nose. You use the Hydro Pulse as a
gentle means of activating the cilia so that they drain the sinuses. see
www.hydomedonline.com for details.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com

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Randy - 30 Sep 2004 12:59 GMT

> The whole point of using the Hydro Pulse is that the pressure is regulated LOW.
> High pressure AND forceful blowing both can damage the nose and ears. When you
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> Murray Grossan, M.D.
> http://www.ent-consult.

If you are just cleaning the nasal cavity, how does the fluid come out
the other nostril? Also, I have had experiences where the irrigation
fluid came out of the corner of my eye. I never use pressure higher
than midway on the dial of the irrigator. Am I forcing bacteria into
my sinuses?

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ENTconsult - 01 Oct 2004 16:12 GMT

Again, it is the height of the stream that you are concerned with - the stream
should be almost one inch high.
When you tilt your head, so you can see the sink drain, the solution form the
Hydro Pulse goes into the right nostril to the back of the nose where it is
open, then curves around and exits the left nostril. When you place the nasal
tip in the left nostril it does the same thing.
It is the flow past the opeings of the sinuses that displaces out the sinus
material. It is the pumping action of the pulsation that "pumps" fluid into the
sinuses and restores the cilia action.
Once the cilia are restored, you don't need Hydro Pulse irrigation any more.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com

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