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Randy - 28 Sep 2004 15:06 GMT
Is it a good idea to use the nasal irrigator during an active
infection?  I am somewhat worried about moving any nasal or sinus
bacteria deeper into the sinus cavities.  Also, I was wondering if
anyone has had sinus infections, particularly ethmoid infections, that
have been preceded by inflammation and drainage from the corner of the
eyes.  I was having eye issues last week and by this weekend, had a
full-blown sinus infection.  My allergies have been very bad due to
ragweed.  Thanks in advance for your advice.
Johnny1000@webtv.net - 28 Sep 2004 15:36 GMT
Hi Randy.... I double or triple the use of my irrigator if I feel a
flair-up coming on. ...I think there's a heck of a lot greater risk of
forcing the material back in by blowing the nose-- or trying to use the
irrigator, if the nose is too plugged up to accept the water. ...Wait
'till it clears.        My advice:.  ...Always use the irrigator on a
low setting... try cold water... And "most" importantly... Refrain from
blowing the nose.   ....Jon
Steven D. Litvintchouk - 28 Sep 2004 17:46 GMT
> Is it a good idea to use the nasal irrigator during an active
> infection?  I am somewhat worried about moving any nasal or sinus
> bacteria deeper into the sinus cavities.  

Irrigation is one of the best ways to flush out the infected material
that's already there.  You win more than you lose--provided you irrigate
gently.

> Also, I was wondering if
> anyone has had sinus infections, particularly ethmoid infections, that
> have been preceded by inflammation and drainage from the corner of the
> eyes.  

Whenever I get a sinus infection, my eyes start tearing.  Also a sinus
infection activates your immune system, making it more sensitive to
other things.  When I get a sinus infection, I am unable to read a
newspaper without sneezing uncontrollably from the newsprint--something
that never happens to me when I don't have a sinus infection.  I'm also
much more sensitive to dust when I have a sinus infection.

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Johnny1000@webtv.net - 28 Sep 2004 20:59 GMT
Hi Steve... Seems to me I read somewhere that sneezing isn't a symptom
of sinusitis, but rather more an indication of an allergy.  ...I noticed
this odd lack of sneezing 20 years ago when I had this major sinus
flair-up. Perhaps it is a protective system designed to decrese the
chance of spreading the infective material around within the sinuses
themselves.   ...Jon
Steven D. Litvintchouk - 28 Sep 2004 21:40 GMT
> Hi Steve... Seems to me I read somewhere that sneezing isn't a symptom
> of sinusitis, but rather more an indication of an allergy.  ...

Now that you mention it, that's another mystery.

When my sinusitis was under good control, my ENT checked my turbinates
with his endoscope and said that from what he saw, it looked like I had
allergies.  I told him that my allergy tests were all negative.  He
retorted, "I don't care what the tests showed!  You've got allergies!"

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Don Brady - 29 Sep 2004 02:48 GMT
>When my sinusitis was under good control, my ENT checked my turbinates
>with his endoscope and said that from what he saw, it looked like I had
>allergies.  I told him that my allergy tests were all negative.  He
>retorted, "I don't care what the tests showed!  You've got allergies!"

Yes the tests seem to often miss sensitivity to airborne allergens....
ENTconsult - 01 Oct 2004 16:18 GMT
Allergic membranes have a specific look to them - pale, boggy and swollen.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
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Steven D. Litvintchouk - 01 Oct 2004 23:58 GMT
> Allergic membranes have a specific look to them - pale, boggy and swollen.
> Murray Grossan, M.D.
> http://www.ent-consult.com

That is how my nasopharynx looks when my ENT views it thru his
endoscope.  Yet my allergy tests were all negative.  That's a mystery no
one has ever been able to solve.

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Pamdomania - 03 Oct 2004 22:04 GMT
>> Allergic membranes have a specific look to them - pale, boggy and swollen.

>> Murray Grossan, M.D.
>> http://www.ent-consult.com
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>That is how my nasopharynx looks when my ENT views it thru his
>endoscope.  Yet my allergy tests were all negative.  That's a mystery no

>one has ever been able to solve.

Hello,
There must be millions of things to which you could be
allergic? Are you sure you got tested for all of
them - what about Candida? Were you tested for that,
or any other fungus, yeast, mold (there are over 3,000)?
You will know for sure, because it will be the only
test where they do a nasal wash for the culture. Are
you sure they tested for all 3,000 fungus species?

Could it be scar tissue from many sore throats as a kid,
due to B complex (especially B 12) deficiency?
Have you had a biopsy of the mass?
Is your "mystery" now solved?

Donot irrigate.
You may spray a fine (extra fine non-medicinal/salt soluion)
up your nose (the same as breathing salt air from the ocean surf).
If you want to irrigate make sure their is medicine in it.
I always squirt some lysterine up my nose before i do the
salt solution. I use an "Ocean" saline spray bottle, so
that i can throw it away soon, because of contamination.
If you use what they are telling you to use in this
news group, you willnot be able to sterilize it and
God only knows what you are forcing into your skull.
It is the same way with spigot, water filters, they
too self-contaminate . . .
Gentian violet is a good medication for the nasal spray,
and you can even put salt and grapefruit seed extract in
it, unless they have found some reason why not to . . .
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