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can you have infection with dry nasal passages, no fluid or discharge?

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iJah - 01 Sep 2004 17:43 GMT
i'm suffering from a condition of extremely dry nasal passages.

bone dry and very swollen. but absolutely no mucus secretions - no
draining, discharge at all. i would actually welcome and love to have
some.

so, all along here i've been thinking that there is no 'infection'
involved because i associate 'infection' with yellow/brown discharge
and drainage and i've got none of that.

there is pain at the very top of my nose right between the eyes, if i
touch the bone at the top of my nose i can tell it hurts a bit to
touch - very slight pain at the touch, but still noticeable.

i have the most unpleasant sensation across my entire forehead and
temples. the whole area feels tight and if i focus on that i can also
notice that the tightness and unpleasant sensation also radiates
around and under my right eye.

if i pinch my nostrils together, they stick shut together because the
tissue is so dry it acts like velco - ha, ha ;-) god, i wish it was
funny, but it is making me so miserable that i'm extremely
dysfunctional.

now, i'm beginning to wonder. can an 'infection' cause or be a result
of or a contributing factor to very dry nasal passages?

iJah
Don Brady - 01 Sep 2004 23:39 GMT
>i'm suffering from a condition of extremely dry nasal passages.
>
>bone dry and very swollen. but absolutely no mucus secretions - no
>draining, discharge at all. i would actually welcome and love to have
>some.

You're not taking antihistamines are you?

>so, all along here i've been thinking that there is no 'infection'
>involved because i associate 'infection' with yellow/brown discharge
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>now, i'm beginning to wonder. can an 'infection' cause or be a result
>of or a contributing factor to very dry nasal passages?

A CT Scan would tell a lot but hopefully Dr. Groassn and others will
comment.......
Mr_C - 02 Sep 2004 00:13 GMT
Hi:

I have almost exactly the same symptoms -- Not quite as "Dry", but
everything else the same.

Is there any treatment for this? Using the grossman irragator does not
seem to help.

Thanks!!!

Andrew
iamthezookeeper - 02 Sep 2004 03:30 GMT
Even with irrigation you are finding your nasal passages are dry? Now that
is odd. It seems to keep mine clear of mucous plus the right PH so they
are neither too wet/dry. Hmmm. I am stumped. Are you using a medication
that can cause dryness? The normal sinus secrets quarts of mucous a day
that just drains down your throat naturally so this is interesting. I
agree with the CT Scan post...maybe that will determine what is going on?
Trudy.
iJah - 02 Sep 2004 06:39 GMT
>Even with irrigation you are finding your nasal passages are dry? Now that
>is odd. It seems to keep mine clear of mucous plus the right PH so they
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>agree with the CT Scan post...maybe that will determine what is going on?
>Trudy.

Thanks Trudy.

What CT Scan post are you referring to? I haven't seen it? Can you
tell me what thread topic it is under?

iJah
iamthezookeeper - 02 Sep 2004 12:38 GMT
The one in this thread by Don Brady...he suggested a CT Scan or advice from
others here. Can you breath freely through your nose if it is dry? I guess
I relate mucous build up to stuffy nose. I keep forgetting which posts I
have read or answered so bear with me...are you seeing an ENT right now?
Trudy.
Shirley Thebaglady - 03 Sep 2004 13:47 GMT
My nasal passages for breathing are clear but I still have dry passages.

Someone here said to stop taking the Claritin to see if that would help.
That is what I will do today for a few days.

shirley
Don Brady - 03 Sep 2004 14:34 GMT
>My nasal passages for breathing are clear but I still have dry passages.
>
>Someone here said to stop taking the Claritin to see if that would help.
>That is what I will do today for a few days.

Antihistamines do indeed dry you out....
David Belbin - 06 Sep 2004 12:24 GMT
> Even with irrigation you are finding your nasal passages are dry? Now that
> is odd. It seems to keep mine clear of mucous plus the right PH so they
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> agree with the CT Scan post...maybe that will determine what is going on?
> Trudy.

Hello again Trudy
I don't think that it is possible to irrigate your sinuses with saline.
It is possible to irrigate your nasal passages to remove crusty stuff etc,
to allow proper drainage of the sinuses.
iJah might get some relief by persevering with nasal irrigation , to allow
the above, but if polyps are the cause, steroid sprays or surgery might be
required.  As Don said, "A CT Scan would tell a lot "
David.
David Belbin - 06 Sep 2004 12:24 GMT
> Even with irrigation you are finding your nasal passages are dry? Now that
> is odd. It seems to keep mine clear of mucous plus the right PH so they
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> agree with the CT Scan post...maybe that will determine what is going on?
> Trudy.

Hello again Trudy
I don't think that it is possible to irrigate your sinuses with saline.
It is possible to irrigate your nasal passages to remove crusty stuff etc,
to allow proper drainage of the sinuses.
iJah might get some relief by persevering with nasal irrigation , to allow
the above, but if polyps are the cause, steroid sprays or surgery might be
required.  As Don said, "A CT Scan would tell a lot "
David.
Shirley Thebaglady - 03 Sep 2004 13:42 GMT
Me too. dry nasal passages.

I am going to stop the Claritin for a few days and see if this helps.

This is the first time I have had dry nasal passages. The saline rinses
have not helped. I thought moisture would give me some relief.

shirley
iJah - 02 Sep 2004 22:07 GMT
On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:43:31 GMT, iJah <iJahSpamSucks@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>>i'm suffering from a condition of extremely dry nasal passages.
>>
>>bone dry and very swollen. but absolutely no mucus secretions - no
>>draining, discharge at all. i would actually welcome and love to have
>>some.

>You're not taking antihistamines are you?

Don - thanks for the response - no, not taking antihistamines now. I
was using a spray called Astelin until a few days ago. I think that
was sort of like an antihistamine and I dropped it because I wondered
if it might be contributing to the dryness.

iJah wrote:
>>so, all along here i've been thinking that there is no 'infection'
>>involved because i associate 'infection' with yellow/brown discharge
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>now, i'm beginning to wonder. can an 'infection' cause or be a result
>>of or a contributing factor to very dry nasal passages?

>A CT Scan would tell a lot but hopefully Dr. Groassn and others will
>comment.......

had a CT scan back in February of this year. it did not show any
infection. sinus cavities 'looked clear' is what they said. went to a
new ENT today. he said he doesn't believe there is infection involved
and doesn't think a CT scan is warranted again, at this point. he gave
me a one week course of prednisone and a script to Rhinocort Aqua and
admonished me to cut down on smoking - I know, I know - smoking bad,
very bad. That's going to be my new focus in life. Cutting
down/quitting smoking. he said mucous membranes in the nose get
damaged by smoke and that thankfully cutting back significantly or
stopping will most certainly stop the damage from worsening and will
likely allow for a reversal of damage already done. i'm afraid my
nasal linings are pretty well fried. i'm ashamed, pissed and
embarrased that i may have and probably did cause this. what a
terrible addiction.

i'm looking for help today on getting the smoking habit under control.

iJah
 
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