I finally made an appointment to see Dr. Freedman at the Mayo Clinic
next month. Its probably going to cost me well over 1500.00 but I've
had it. I hate having my sinuses dictate my days and if they can help,
1500.00 is well worth it to me. I'll post my experiences after I get
back.
I'm very curious if you have used the "upsidedown flushing of sinuses
with hydrogen peroxide/baking soda/sea salt" as posted here several
times in detail and has a web site about this procedure at:
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=139765
I have used this procedure many times (I use the rightside up
procedure because my problem isn't as severe as the original poster)
and it works wonderfully for me.
Seems to me that before you spend $1,500.00 at Mayo Clinic you might
at least try this method or are you just looking for the 'magic
bullet' that will heal all in just a few minutes with a couple of
pills.
Little surprise for you. There is no 'magic bullet' and whatever they
do for you at Mayo Clinic I doubt serious that it is going to work
easily and quickly without some effort on your part. I also bet you
they will want to do surgery on you and I have never seen anyone who
had surgery done on them say they are much better off in the long run.
Just my two cents worth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>I finally made an appointment to see Dr. Freedman at the Mayo Clinic
>next month. Its probably going to cost me well over 1500.00 but I've
>had it. I hate having my sinuses dictate my days and if they can help,
>1500.00 is well worth it to me. I'll post my experiences after I get
>back.
Wild Bill 2, Marietta, Ga. (^_-)
email: poston8 [at] comcast [.] net
Psychotron - 31 Aug 2004 19:56 GMT
> I'm very curious if you have used the "upsidedown flushing of sinuses
> with hydrogen peroxide/baking soda/sea salt" as posted here several
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>
> Just my two cents worth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Surgery made my life many, many times better. I had polyps
about 1/4" from coming out my nose. I was 100% blocked all
day and night. Fluid drained out my nostril at night, down
my face and into my ear. Every night! After surgery my
ENT told me that the polyps had eaten through the bone around
my eye and was working on puncturing my skull in my ethmoid
sinus. He had to do bone grafts around my eye socket. Once
punctured the infection would probably have spread to my brain.
Not good. I waited too long. Surgery is a must in many cases.
iamthezookeeper - 01 Sep 2004 00:14 GMT
Psychotron: Thank you for that post. I thought I was the only one that had
it really bad with polyp disease. I have had five surgeries so far because
of a mucocele that eroded my orbit floor. I was told the same thing about
infection, that I was about 1/2 away from a major brain infection. Surgery
saved my life. I still have to have my socket repaired. Where did you go
for this and were you 100% happy with the results? Trudy.
asdf - 01 Sep 2004 02:20 GMT
> Psychotron: Thank you for that post. I thought I was the only one that had
> it really bad with polyp disease. I have had five surgeries so far because
> of a mucocele that eroded my orbit floor. I was told the same thing about
> infection, that I was about 1/2 away from a major brain infection. Surgery
> saved my life. I still have to have my socket repaired. Where did you go
> for this and were you 100% happy with the results? Trudy.
I went to an ENT in Port Huron Michigan. About an hour north of
Detroit.
asdf - 01 Sep 2004 02:22 GMT
> Psychotron: Thank you for that post. I thought I was the only one that had
> it really bad with polyp disease. I have had five surgeries so far because
> of a mucocele that eroded my orbit floor. I was told the same thing about
> infection, that I was about 1/2 away from a major brain infection. Surgery
> saved my life. I still have to have my socket repaired. Where did you go
> for this and were you 100% happy with the results? Trudy.
Oh yeah... I very happy with the results but a year has passed
and some polyps are returning. No fault of the surgery though.
I'm investigating acetic acid right now. I know a lady who
claims her ENT has prescribed it for her and now she has no
polyps. She has offered to put our ENT's in touch. I'm going to
do it soon.
iamthezookeeper - 31 Aug 2004 20:02 GMT
Good luck and let us know how it goes. They are the only ENT place right
now that supports candida being a cause of sinusitis so this will be
interesting to hear what they have to say and the treatments they
recommend. I asked my ENT yesterday (Dr. Terrell at U of M) if they all
use different treatments. He said they each have their own way of doing
things. He is the first ENT to offer me antibiotic nasal irrigation in 23
years!! He also talked about ASA desensitization which my other ENT's
never discussed. It might take a while to find the right person for you,
don't give up. As for the nasal irrigation with Saline, Baking Soda, and
Peroxide...he said NEVER put any peroxide solution into your sinus as it
EATS soft tissue. Yet other ENT's say it is okay. Who really knows? Trudy.
dball63 - 01 Sep 2004 01:14 GMT
Actually I have tried it a few times both upside down and right side
up. So far this has not helped me in any way. It only aggrevated my
problems with more extreme amounts of moucus day and night. As well
each time I tried the updside down irrigation, I was unable to sleep
at night due to stuffiness and irritated sinuses from the irrigations.
If I thought the irrigations were helping at all I would continue but
so far nothing has been the magic bullet that helps my suffering. I'm
tired of waiting for someone to help me. Its been five years and I
just keep bouncing back and forth from ENT to Allergy back to ENT and
so on with no relief in symptoms yet and no improvement in my
lifestyle. I hate living like a hermet. I want my life back. I'm tired
of being so secretive. My self image has gotten so bad these last few
years I really feel like a differnt person all together. I'm sure some
of you know what I mean.
Its also for piece-of-mind. I no longer wait for things to happen
regarding my health. I take action where I need to and never treat any
doctors opinion as final anymore.
Take Care and thanks for your post.
> I'm very curious if you have used the "upsidedown flushing of sinuses
> with hydrogen peroxide/baking soda/sea salt" as posted here several
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> Wild Bill 2, Marietta, Ga. (^_-)
> email: poston8 [at] comcast [.] net
Shirley Thebaglady - 03 Sep 2004 13:29 GMT
It is called daily care of our sinus.
My MD advised me to use the saline nasal rinse daily, as I was always
there with sinus, inner ear and upper respiratory infections.
Somedays I get those sinus headaches and ringing, thumping in my right
ear. I know then to use the saline rinse morning and night before
sleeping. I sleep with my head on a wedge pillow.
shirley
> I finally made an appointment to see Dr. Freedman at the Mayo Clinic
> next month. Its probably going to cost me well over 1500.00 but I've
> had it. I hate having my sinuses dictate my days and if they can help,
> 1500.00 is well worth it to me. I'll post my experiences after I get
> back.
Good luck!
As you know, Mayo pioneered the theory of allergic fungal sinusitis.
I'm curious as to whether they'll automatically assume that must be the
problem with your sinuses--or whether they will continue to consider
alternative diagnoses as well.

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Don Brady - 01 Sep 2004 23:40 GMT
>As you know, Mayo pioneered the theory of allergic fungal sinusitis.
>I'm curious as to whether they'll automatically assume that must be the
>problem with your sinuses--or whether they will continue to consider
>alternative diagnoses as well.
Me too. I suspect the latter - their educational web site does not even
mention the fungal theory.....
ARoberts - 02 Sep 2004 02:44 GMT
> >As you know, Mayo pioneered the theory of allergic fungal sinusitis.
> >I'm curious as to whether they'll automatically assume that must be the
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> Me too. I suspect the latter - their educational web site does not even
> mention the fungal theory.....
I agree. From my experiences at Mayo, they presume nothing, but go where
the evidence leads...
dball63 - 02 Sep 2004 19:21 GMT
> I agree. From my experiences at Mayo, they presume nothing, but go where
> the evidence leads...
I hope that they don't have to do too much more testing than what I
will be bringing with my medical records. I'm paying for this out of
my pocket so far.
DBall
Sacramento, CA
ARoberts - 03 Sep 2004 02:33 GMT
> > I agree. From my experiences at Mayo, they presume nothing, but go where
> > the evidence leads...
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> DBall
> Sacramento, CA
If you bring records that are current and on point, they will use them, but
be prepared for them to look more deeply and to do more diagnostic testing
than you've had. After all, that's why people go there--to have more
exhaustive evaluation than they have been able to get locally. They are
quite thorough.
Don Brady - 03 Sep 2004 03:02 GMT
>If you bring records that are current and on point, they will use them, but
>be prepared for them to look more deeply and to do more diagnostic testing
>than you've had. After all, that's why people go there--to have more
>exhaustive evaluation than they have been able to get locally. They are
>quite thorough.
Yes as a matter of fact I think that is Mayo's greatest strength - *diagnosis*
of difficult conditions.
They tend to run far more tests than other places, and also to look more
broadly for causes. They will look into possibilties like infectious diseases,
anemia, and nutrition that noone else will.....
Don Brady - 03 Sep 2004 02:39 GMT
>> I agree. From my experiences at Mayo, they presume nothing, but go where
>> the evidence leads...
>
>I hope that they don't have to do too much more testing than what I
>will be bringing with my medical records. I'm paying for this out of
>my pocket so far.
Watch out on costs then.
I think my bill was around $7000 just for tests when I went to Mayo for
sinusitis and some other problems 10 years ago.
Can't you get insurance coverage?
dball63 - 03 Sep 2004 16:50 GMT
> Watch out on costs then.
>
> I think my bill was around $7000 just for tests when I went to Mayo for
> sinusitis and some other problems 10 years ago.
>
> Can't you get insurance coverage?
Wow. I'm trying to get my Allergist to get a referal for me. Its very
tough with an HMO to get refered when there are ENT's already in your
plan. The trick is trying to convice them that Mayo is offering
something that is not available with doctors in their plan. I really
do not want to spend that much but if were to cure me.......then maybe
I could swallow it. Its going to cost me 1000.00 just for airfair.
David Ball
Don Brady - 04 Sep 2004 03:26 GMT
>> Can't you get insurance coverage?
>
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>do not want to spend that much but if were to cure me.......then maybe
>I could swallow it. Its going to cost me 1000.00 just for airfair.
Mayo's Insurance Departemnt may be able to help if you have not tried that ye.
They have execellent relationships with every Insurer in the country. Many
HMO's send people there....