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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Sinusitis / August 2004Those sporting elastoplasts - breathing better?
Hi, I have always chuckled at those little strips of elastoplast that sports stars now wear on their noses to improve breathing. But, in the last few weeks, my sinuses have been playing up in a way that my nose constantly feels 'restricted' when breathing in. It is as if the breathing in through the nose is actually sucking the nostrils closed. So much so that I do not feel that I am getting a good intake of air and have resorted to breathing in via my mouth. In fact, in the past few weeks I get up each morning and my nose is, sorry about this, full of bugers that I have to clean out manually as blowing my nose is not sufficient. Anyhow, this afternoon I pinched my nose with my thumb and fore-finger slightly below the bridge and gently raised the skin of my nose slightly towards the bridge... and inhaled. The difference was amazing. I could breath easily and I have been experimenting 'with' and 'without' this technique all day now and it makes a remarkable difference. I get the same benefit is I place my elbows on a table, cup my nose in-between my palms and push gently up on the skin of the nose. Is this somehow related to sinuses? I mean, is there a known problem where the nose can somehow become constricted to a point that air flow in, and out presumably, is restricted? Could polyps in the sinuses cause this? I need to investigate this further as the difference in my breathing is actually affecting quality of life. I suppose I am asking if this is a known medical issue with regard to the nose and sinuses? Thanks for any info, John. John, if your nose is constantly blocked it is time to see your doc or and ENT for dignosis and treatment. Chronic sinus disease and polyps can play a part in stuffy noses along with allergies. Let us know what you find out. Trudy. > John, if your nose is constantly blocked it is time to see your doc or and > ENT for dignosis and treatment. Chronic sinus disease and polyps can play > a part in stuffy noses along with allergies. Let us know what you find > out. Trudy. Thanks Trudy, I did a googe for polyps last night and came across some photos which kind of made me feel guilty. The photos showed enormous polyps in people's noses often looking like small white fatty marbles - something I do not have. Anyhow, time to talk to the doc. I am being treated for asthma at the moment which seems to be entirely stress related. I wonder now whether my reduction in breathing through my nose is actually a factor in the asthma. I know that I sometimes feeling panicky when my nose breathing is restricted which brings on apprehension and panic which leads to asthma symptoms. John. John, by any chance are you allergic to aspirin also? A few of us have what is called Samters Triad, that is chronic nasal polyps, asthma, and aspirin allergy. What are your treatments for the asthma? I know the panic you speak of...sometimes I can't tell the difference between panic and not really being able to breathe! I carry Xanax just in case but don't use it much. Another thing that aggravates asthma is acid indigestion. It can trigger an attack as the acid washes up in the esophogus and causes airway reaction. As you read the boards write things down to discuss with your doc as some of us have had over 20 years experience with this disease! Good luck. Trudy. > John, by any chance are you allergic to aspirin also? A few of us have what > is called Samters Triad, that is chronic nasal polyps, asthma, and aspirin [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > doc as some of us have had over 20 years experience with this disease! > Good luck. Trudy. Trudy, That's an interesting question. I work in the IT industry and, because I stare all day at computer screens, I used to end up with terrible headaches come migraines come sinus problems. Quite often the only pain-reliever I found for this was Solpadeine and I ended up taking too many of these without realising that I had become addicted to them. I weaned myself off them and stopped taking them unless I had a terrible migraine. I have noticed that my asthma returns or worsens when I take Solpadeine and wonder if they do affect or induce asthma in the ways you mentioned for aspirin? My treatments for asthmas are currently Symbicort which I take one puff twice a day... began this about 2 months ago.. .and then a bricanyl inhaler for when I need to relieve asthma symptoms. I really haven't had any asthma for about 3 to 5 years up until last June when, stupidly, I basically worked the past 12 months without a single day off and ran myself mentally and physically into the ground. The result being that I developed panic attacks - the first one ended up with myself in A&E with a suspected heart attack - that my asthma returned and my Doctor told me to take a few months off and put me onto the symbicort. Up until then my old bricanyl inhaler was unused for about 4ish years. I can certainly say that stress is a big factor in my asthma but am now beginning to wonder how the work in IT, the Solpadeine, the lack of rest are coming together to cause sinus and asthma problems. I wonder if I can cure X whether that will cure Y. I am slowly unwinding and my panic attacks are getting less frequent but, boy, when they return they scare the daylights out of me even though my brain is saying "This is a panic attack. I will not let it control me!" they are hard, difficult things to get over. I would never have understood how awful they are if I had never experienced them. John. John, I have never heard of some of the meds you mention and what is A&E? Are you in America? That might explain! Trudy. > John, I have never heard of some of the meds you mention and what is A&E? > Are you in America? That might explain! Trudy. Hi Trudy, I am in the UK. A&E is Accident and Emergency or, as you would know it, ER. Solpadeine is a brand drug over here in the UK that is basically codeine and a major over the shelf counter drug for pain - migraine, headaches, period pain. Migraine suffers swear by it. It has its own website if you do a Google. Symbicort and Bricanyl are asthmatic inhalers common in the UK and Europe. I thought they were global. Bricanyl is a blue based turbo inhaler which you take if you feel an asthma episode coming on. Symbicort is an anti-inflammatory steroid, again inhaled. Again, I thought these were global products and I thought that Symbicort was the new 'big thing'. John. Thanks John! I will ask my doc about these meds. I am on Albuterol and Advair along with a shitload of others to numerous to mention. Never heard of the ones you use! Trudy. > Thanks John! I will ask my doc about these meds. I am on Albuterol and > Advair along with a shitload of others to numerous to mention. Never heard > of the ones you use! Trudy. Trudy, I am no medical expert but I think Symbicort is the new wonder asthma anti-inflammatory here in the UK and Europe. I am actually stopping it myself and going back to my Doc as I don't like some of the side affects. You can read info about it here: http://www.symbicort.com/ For years in the UK asthma suffers used to be given, although there are obviously many types, a 'blue' inhaler and a 'brown' inhaler so called because of the colour of the inhalers. The brown one was pulmicort which was designed usually to be taken 1 puff twice daily as an anti-inflammatory and the blue one was bricanyl which was taken when a person was feeling an attack was coming on/happening. There are two very good forums on this UK asthma website - one for medical professions and one members of the public - where you will probably get better answers to any questions you might have than from me. In fact, I should post my original question on there also - http://www.asthma.org.uk/ Hope this helps, John. >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >John. Hello, If i put too much (or too often) pressure on the bridge of the nose i feel as though someone punched me in the nose. http://www.sinusinfocenter.com/treatment_polypectomy.html You usually cannot see the nasal polyps unless they are large and hanging down toward the nares. Some, large polyps can ?hang? different directions. Your family Doc will tell you if you need to see an ENT. It sounds as if you are starting to get ?crusting? (drying) of your nasal passage; sounds as fungus to me, so why not read the following fresh out of Mayo Clinic etc: The first thing i must say is unless you are on your death-bed, use Amphotericin B only as a nasal spray, because it can and has caused heart attack when taken internally http://health.yahoo.com/health/ency/adam/003504/treatment http://www.umc-cares.org/health_info/ADAM/Articles/003503.asp Here are all the things you need to know to get started:: `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Here is some latest coming out of the Mayo Clinic: http://www.drmirkin.com/morehealth/G220.htm http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=340935 http://www.doctorfungus.com/thedrugs/Ampho_Deoxycholate.htm ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ?Killing Fungi? http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/afung.html Herbs Etc. Products for sinus (self-help): http://www.discount-vitamins-herbs.net/Sinus-allergy.htm More Good Stuff to Know: http://www.candidafree.net/pages/3/ http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/dental/candida.htm ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` A neat statement to remember: ?Amphotericin B The studies from the Mayo Clinic found that nasal lavage/wash with Amphotericin B is much more effective than oral amphotericin B, with virtually none of the side effects? ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Most fungi simply colonise the sinuses and sit there without causing any inflammation. Occasionally the fungi may invade the mucous membranes and provoke intense inflammation and allergic response. Even more rarely the fungi may invade the bones of the facial skeleton and damage blood vessels and nerves, even extending to the eye and brain (Mucormycosis) Continued at: http://www.medicdirect.co.uk/clinics/default.ihtml?step=4&pid=1733. ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Researchers at the Mayo Clinic found fungi in 96 percent of people with chronic sinusitis? http://www.drmirkin.com/morehealth/G220.htm ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Grapefruit seed extracts: http://www.herbalremedies.com/actomayclinm.html ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` http://www.doctorfungus.com/thedrugs/Ampho_Deoxycholate.htm http://www.emedicine.com/ent/topic639.htm ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Therapy for the Amphotericin B deoxycholate, nose spray is: 3 months; 5 squirts each nostral; 2 times aday; Another Possible Procedure, however using ONLY the 10-squirts worth, and only done twice aday, and remembering this MUST NOT be swallowed; http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C55833.html The Sinus Flooding Procedure: a. Lay on a bed face up with the head hanging over the edge of the mattress so the nostrils are pointing straight up toward the ceiling. b. Use an eye dropper to fill each nostril with the rinse solution. Keep filling each nostril until the rinse solution starts to drip in the throat. Remain in the same position for 2 to 3 minutes. c. Roll over on the stomach and let the head flop forward over the edge of the mattress. Remain in that position for 2 to 3 minutes then sit up and let the rinse drain out through the nose. (THIS FOLLOWING DOESNOT APPLY TO US AT THE PRESENT AND/OR UNTIL AN ACTUAL "WASH" IS MADE AVAILABLE) d. Important: Repeat this procedure 45 minutes later. The two rinses 45 minutes apart constitute a single rinse session. Perform two or more such rinse sessions per day. Relief will typically be noticeable by the second day. It is not unusual for the sinus infection to be gone within three days. e. Repeat two sessions per day until the infection subsides. Very persistent infections may require five to seven day or more. ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Amphotericin B deoxycholate nasal spray/wash is shipped in a cold pack and must be kept refrigerated. Only a one month's supply at a time is available, because it is so perishable, however i finally found a "Dixie" Mayo Clinic near me and am now using the "wash", not "drops", and is $50.00 cheaper than the above-mentioned drugstore. ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Here are interesting statements i saw while rushing through the Internet. It is nice to know if you absolutely must put your life at risk with Amphotericin B, you can quickly get off of it : ?Surgical treatment is mandatory. Initiate medical treatment with systemic antifungals once invasion is diagnosed. Amphotericin B (2 g/d) is recommended; this can be replaced by ketoconazole or itraconazole once the disease is under control?. AND AGAIN: ?Acute invasive fungal sinusitis Emergent treatment is necessary once this condition is suspected. Initiate systemic antifungal treatment after surgical debridement. High doses of amphotericin B (1-1.5 mg/kg/d) are recommended. Oral itraconazole (400 mg/d) can replace amphotericin B once the acute stage has passed. Treatment of the underlying immune deficiency, if possible, is desirable.? Picture of chronic sinusitis: http://www.med.sc.edu:1000/chronicsinusitis.htm A tour of the nose and sinuses: Virtual Sinus Laboratory http://www.entnet.org/healthinfo/sinus/lab.cfm ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Here are some interesting things for you to see: http://www.commoncold.org/cmplcatn.htm http://www.commoncold.org/cmplcat1.htm http://www.servier.com/imgs/pro/locabiotal/faq/visu_15.jpg http://home.hawaii.rr.com/dochazenfield/images/tongue3-A.gif + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + MustRead! http://WWW.PAMINIFARM.COM "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You usually cannot see the nasal polyps unless they are > large and hanging down toward the nares. Some, large polyps can "hang" different > directions. Your family Doc will tell Snipped ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ > Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com > <><><><><><><> The Worlds Uncensored News Source <><><><><><><><> Thanks - some interesting reading there. I'll get a cuppa. John. In many persons, esp seniors, the tip of the nose becomes depressed - hangs down. . This in effect closes a valve to your nose. If you take your finger and gently lift the tip of the nose up, that opens the valve. If that works for you, get a roll of 1/4 inch medical tape, start from just below the tip of the nose (under the nose) and gently lift the tip up so it opens. then secure this on the central bridge of the nose, up to beteen the eyes. This si esp good for sleep at night. where it is most important. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com |
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