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Nikki - 21 Aug 2004 17:15 GMT Is there a decongestant that is safe for people with high blood pressure? My BP is controlled with meds, but if I take Claritin-D or any "D" product, my BP shoots up. I irrigate 3-4 times a day (per my doctor's instructions) but I now have a constant earache on one side (the side I sleep on). Doc gave me Duraphen II but it doesn't seem to help. I was taking claritin (24 hr) twice a day (per doc instructions plus chlor-trimeton throughout the day. I went back to weekly allergy shots instead of monthly. I'm so miserable. Living on ibuprofen too. Advice appreciated.
Niki
Pamdomania - 21 Aug 2004 18:21 GMT >Is there a decongestant that is safe for people with high blood pressure? My >BP is controlled with meds, but if I take Claritin-D or any "D" product, my [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Niki Hello, Now you know why irrigation scares me. It can be done, however it must be done "RIGHT"!!!!! If you want i will get into that later, plus acidophilus. Remember the "Saying": Where there is irritation; There is blockage; Where there is blockage; There is swelling; Where there is swelling; There is infection. Therefore let us say for example, you have Candida in your saliva glands, causing swelling in the ear etc. area, which seems to be giving you an "earache"; then the anti-biotic clears up the "infection", but not the fungus, so you continue to suffer with fungus infection (the real problem), and round and round we go again. The anti-biotic makes fungus worse, so it doesnot sound too much as if your problem is fungus, however that is hard to believe under the circumstances of the 96% report. Let us try this: Next earaches make a solution of 1/2 peroxide and 1/2 alcohol; drip gently into ears. If you hear a lot of hissing etc, you have the ear-fungus infection, and that solution is about all you should need, as long as you use it every time you come near water (shower, swimming, caught in the rain, humid days etc.). On the other hand if the ear thingy is coming from your sinuses, you will want to read this:  The first thing i must say is unless you are on your death-bed, use Amphotericin B only as a nasal spray, because it can and has caused heart attack when taken internally http://health.yahoo.com/health/ency/adam/003504/treatment http://www.umc-cares.org/health_info/ADAM/Articles/003503.asp Here are all the things you need to know to get started:: `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Here is some latest coming out of the Mayo Clinic: http://www.drmirkin.com/morehealth/G220.htm http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=340935 http://www.doctorfungus.com/thedrugs/Ampho_Deoxycholate.htm ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ?Killing Fungi? http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/afung.html Herbs Etc. Products for sinus (self-help): http://www.discount-vitamins-herbs.net/Sinus-allergy.htm More Good Stuff to Know: http://www.candidafree.net/pages/3/
````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` A neat statement to remember: ?Amphotericin B The studies from the Mayo Clinic found that nasal lavage/wash with Amphotericin B is much more effective than oral amphotericin B, with virtually none of the side effects? ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Most fungi simply colonise the sinuses and sit there without causing any inflammation. Occasionally the fungi may invade the mucous membranes and provoke intense inflammation and allergic response. Even more rarely the fungi may invade the bones of the facial skeleton and damage blood vessels and nerves, even extending to the eye and brain (Mucormycosis) Continued at: http://www.medicdirect.co.uk/clinics/default.ihtml?step=4&pid=1733. ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Researchers at the Mayo Clinic found fungi in 96 percent of people with chronic sinusitis? http://www.drmirkin.com/morehealth/G220.htm ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Grapefruit seed extracts: http://www.herbalremedies.com/actomayclinm.html ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` http://www.doctorfungus.com/thedrugs/Ampho_Deoxycholate.htm http://www.emedicine.com/ent/topic639.htm ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Therapy for the Amphotericin B deoxycholate, nose spray is: 3 months; 5 squirts each nostral; 2 times aday; Another Possible Procedure, however using ONLY the 10-squirts worth, and only done twice aday, and remembering this MUST NOT be swallowed; http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C55833.html The Sinus Flooding Procedure: a. Lay on a bed face up with the head hanging over the edge of the mattress so the nostrils are pointing straight up toward the ceiling. b. Use an eye dropper to fill each nostril with the rinse solution. Keep filling each nostril until the rinse solution starts to drip in the throat. Remain in the same position for 2 to 3 minutes. c. Roll over on the stomach and let the head flop forward over the edge of the mattress. Remain in that position for 2 to 3 minutes then sit up and let the rinse drain out through the nose. (THIS FOLLOWING DOESNOT APPLY TO US AT THE PRESENT AND/OR UNTIL AN ACTUAL "WASH" IS MADE AVAILABLE) d. Important: Repeat this procedure 45 minutes later. The two rinses 45 minutes apart constitute a single rinse session. Perform two or more such rinse sessions per day. Relief will typically be noticeable by the second day. It is not unusual for the sinus infection to be gone within three days. e. Repeat two sessions per day until the infection subsides. Very persistent infections may require five to seven day or more. ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Amphotericin B deoxycholate nasal spray/wash is shipped in a cold pack and must be kept refrigerated. Only a one month's supply at a time is available, because it is so perishable, however i finally found a "Dixie" Mayo Clinic near me and am now using the "wash", not "drops", and is $50.00 cheaper than the above-mentioned drugstore. ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Here are interesting statements i saw while rushing through the Internet. It is nice to know if you absolutely must put your life at risk with Amphotericin B, you can quickly get off of it :
?Surgical treatment is mandatory. Initiate medical treatment with systemic antifungals once invasion is diagnosed. Amphotericin B (2 g/d) is recommended; this can be replaced by ketoconazole or itraconazole once the disease is under control?.
AND AGAIN:
?Acute invasive fungal sinusitis Emergent treatment is necessary once this condition is suspected. Initiate systemic antifungal treatment after surgical debridement. High doses of amphotericin B (1-1.5 mg/kg/d) are recommended. Oral itraconazole (400 mg/d) can replace amphotericin B once the acute stage has passed. Treatment of the underlying immune deficiency, if possible, is desirable.?
Picture of chronic sinusitis: http://www.med.sc.edu:1000/chronicsinusitis.htm
A tour of the nose and sinuses: Virtual Sinus Laboratory http://www.entnet.org/healthinfo/sinus/lab.cfm ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + MustRead! http://WWW.PAMINIFARM.COM "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6
ENTconsult - 25 Aug 2004 16:17 GMT What is your earache due to? is it outer ear infection middle ear conditon? TMJ referred pain from the neck? chronic mastoid?
you need a diagnosis here. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
Nikki - 04 Sep 2004 01:38 GMT Doc said no infection. Congestion. I'm now on a Guair-Phenyl prescription. It's probably related to not being able to get out all the irrigation fluid. I'm on BP meds, so can't take all the over-the-counter "D" stuff.
What is your earache due to? is it outer ear infection middle ear conditon? TMJ referred pain from the neck? chronic mastoid?
you need a diagnosis here. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
iamthezookeeper - 04 Sep 2004 06:30 GMT Speaking of...not an earaches but plugged ear constantly. My right ear is totally plugged. I can't hear out of it at all. No infection. It happened during an irrigation and I cannot get it to clear (pop). Help! I tried the thing they taught us in the military while flying...valve salvo (sp) or something. Geez, I cannot even get my body to bend that way. I keep plugging my nose and gently blowing and it only makes it worse. How do you unplug an ear? Trudy.
Shirley Thebaglady - 04 Sep 2004 10:49 GMT My hubby used to get plugged ears after swimming under water. He would hop on 1 foot and tilt his head down on that side.
Now his MD says to use Swimmers ears drops.
shirley
iamthezookeeper - 04 Sep 2004 16:10 GMT I had heard you could take a diluted solution of hydrogen peroxide mixed with water and warm it up, drip into the ear with head tilted and then tip head the other way to empty. At this point I will try almost anything. I keep saying "what?" everytime someone speaks to me and I am talking loudly and it is annoying people...lol. Trudy.
Shirley Thebaglady - 06 Sep 2004 12:56 GMT I lost my balance yesterday. My ears have been fluttering and ringing the last couple of days. Headachy too. Aleve helped with the headache but it is back this morning.
I am going to gargle today to see if this helps me. This helped me before.
shirley
CanDo - 21 Aug 2004 20:53 GMT Sounds like you may have gotten fluid into your Eustachian Tubes. Doctor's should warn patients to irrigate safely, but they don't. Some doctors and other idiots tell people to irrigate on their backs, which has high risks of putting fluid into one's Eustachian Tubes, and possibly into one's middle ear.
The opening to the Eustachian Tubes is near the back of the throat, about even with the nostrils. The safest way to irrigate, IMHO, is with the face straight down. This way the opening to the Eustachian Tubes is upwards, and the middle ear is even higher.
Ask your doctor about this, and ask him why he didn't warn tell you how to safely irrigate. Then you might consider talking to your lawyer.
There is a lot of bad advice on the Internet. Question all advice, including my own. Also watch out for Pamdomania. He is very strange and gives dangerous advice, probably with a purpose to injure others.
> Is there a decongestant that is safe for people with high blood pressure? My > BP is controlled with meds, but if I take Claritin-D or any "D" product, my [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Niki Pamdomania - 21 Aug 2004 22:12 GMT >Sounds like you may have gotten fluid into your Eustachian Tubes. Doctor's >should warn patients to irrigate safely, but they don't. Some doctors and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >my own. Also watch out for Pamdomania. He is very strange and gives >dangerous advice, probably with a purpose to injure others. Hello, Pathetic little CanDo, who hates straight Christians, has a lot of strange hang-ups, and his tabu about getting on the bed on your back, only reveals his sexual perversions, so pay no attention to the poor thing . . . BTW the eustachian tube openings are in the roof of your mouth right behind, and on either side of the center, lump-like protrusion. Put the tip of your tongue back there and you can feel them. I will try to find you a picture - be right back . . . maybe . . . + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + MustRead! http://WWW.PAMINIFARM.COM "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6
Pamdomania - 21 Aug 2004 22:59 GMT >>Sounds like you may have gotten fluid into your Eustachian Tubes. Doctor's >>should warn patients to irrigate safely, but they don't. Some doctors and [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > <><><><><><><> The Worlds Uncensored News Source <><><><><><><><> > Hello, Not the picture i wanted, however it is a good picture C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My pictures\Move OEG (Olfactory Ensheathing Glia) Transplants Into Human Clinical Trials for Spinal Cord Injury.htm -too bad you cannot see it - i shall try again . . . + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + MustRead! http://WWW.PAMINIFARM.COM "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6
Pamdomania - 21 Aug 2004 23:23 GMT Hello, These following do it as good as i can do right now: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.biologycorner.com/resources/fr og%2520mouth%2520labeled.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.biologycorner.com/bio2/notes-f rog.html&h=270&w=300&sz=15&tbnid=Jya8dcOCHjUJ:&tbnh=99&tbnw=110&start=1&prev=/im ages%3Fq%3Deustachian%2Bfrog%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG
This is a little better: http://health.allrefer.com/pictures-images/eustachian-tube.html
Best picture of all: http://biology.about.com/library/blfrogmouth.htm http://biology.about.com/library/graphics/frogmouth.jpg
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iamthezookeeper - 22 Aug 2004 00:56 GMT Nikki, did your doc make sure you don't have any infection in your ear at all? Chronic ear pain is the worst. If it is long term I would really see another specialist as it is not normal to have it last that long. I agree with CanDo about irrigation, and if you are doing it wrong maybe some solution got into the tubes? Let us know what happens. Trudy.
Shirley Thebaglady - 22 Aug 2004 10:44 GMT My hubby takes BP meds and it says on his prescription bottle no decongestants should be used.
So ask your pharmacist at the drug store. He gave my hubby something over the counter to use. He is also useing Claritin with no problems as his MD okayed it for his Hay Fever. It melts in your mouth and works within a half hour.
shirley
ENTconsult - 23 Aug 2004 03:08 GMT Re your earache, are you using Neti Pot? This requires you to lean your head to the side during use. The soliution pools at the Eustachian Tube opening and earche and ear infection is quite common among Neti pot users. With the Hydro Pulse, an advantage is that you automatically keep the head "straight" to avoid solution lyng on this opening to the ear. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
Nikki - 23 Aug 2004 16:51 GMT Nope. I've always used the hydro pulse and I keep my head straight and forward over the sink. But then I hang my head to the floor and let excess water drain out. Problem is there's more water later on, and sometimes it comes out at the most inconvenient times. I just can't get all the water out, and I think that's the problem. Nik
Re your earache, are you using Neti Pot? This requires you to lean your head to the side during use. The soliution pools at the Eustachian Tube opening and earche and ear infection is quite common among Neti pot users. With the Hydro Pulse, an advantage is that you automatically keep the head "straight" to avoid solution lyng on this opening to the ear. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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