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Surprise!  No Benzalkonium Chloride in "Astelin" ordered from New Zealand

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Harold - 21 Apr 2004 23:59 GMT
I recently discovered that most of the antihistamines and steroid
nasal sprays that are prescription-only in the U.S are sold as
nonprescription products in Australia and New Zealand, sometimes at a
subsantially lower price than an *insurance copay* would be for the
same product here!

As many of you know, in the U.S. Astelin (azelastine) is an an
antihistamine that is administered as a nasal spray.  One purported
advantage of Astelin over oral antihistamines is that its topical mode
of administration may allow it to help with nasal congestion and to
cause less dry mouth.  Another is that it is indicated for both
allergic and non-allergic rhinitis (at least in the U.S.)

I recently ordered Azep (= Astelin, but manufactured by VIATRIS of
Germany) from a company in New Zealand.  It arrived quickly.  One of
the first things I did was compare the Azep packaging and instructions
with some expired Astelin I have, and was surprised to see that --
while most of the additives were the same --  the Azep lacked the
Benzalkonium Chloride found in Astelin.  I found this curious,
especially since almost all the American prescription and OTC sprays
except Rhinocort have BC, and many ENTs, researchers and patients feel
that BC can actually *worsen* sinus-related problems in many folks.

I wonder why BC is deemed as "necessary" in the U.S version (Astelin)
but not in Azep?

BTW, the dosage listed for Azep is one spray per nostril twice a day,
while the Astelin monograph specifies a usual dose of *two* sprays per
nostril twice a day.  This is despite the fact that each spray (or
"puff" as it's called by Azep) contains an equivalent amount of
azelastine HCL for both products.

HS
ENTconsult - 22 Apr 2004 03:32 GMT
I believe the reason your "astelin" is without BZK is that they use a special
pump that doesn't pull back or suck back.
I wonder if there is a different preservative? can you give us the list of
ingredients?
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
Harold - 22 Apr 2004 07:13 GMT
> I believe the reason your "astelin" is without BZK is that they use a special
> pump that doesn't pull back or suck back.
> I wonder if there is a different preservative? can you give us the list of
> ingredients?
> Murray Grossan, M.D.
> http://www.ent-consult.com

Oops, I meant to mention that the Azep box and bottle label both say,
"Contains no preservatives."  Which makes it all the more interesting
that Azep warns to discard any leftover product 6 months after
opening, while Astelin says to discard 3 months after opening.

Ingredients statement on insert:
"Azep nasal spray contains a solution of 0.1% w/v azelastine
hydrochloride.  Each spray contains 0.14mg azelastine hydrochloride.
Azep nasal spray also contains methyl hydroxypropyl cellulose, sodium
edetate, citric acid, sodium chloride, sodium phosphate and water."

The Azep indication is for allergic rhinitis (seasonal or year-round),
while, as you know, Astelin advertises that it is approved for both
allergic and non-allergic rhinitis.

From my (decidely unprofessional) examination, the pumps appear
identical. Well, OK, Azep's pump is all white, while Astelin's is a
combo of white and blue, although I doubt that would affect have much
theraputic significance :)  On another mundane issues, I like the fact
that Azep is in a glass bottle like Beconase (vs. Astelin's opaque
plastic), so that you can easily tell how much is left.

One other tidbit...it appears from my net research that the British
brand of azelastine, named Rhinolast, was discontinued.

HS
iJah - 22 Apr 2004 03:48 GMT
Interesting. I live in the USA and have been using Astelin sparingly
because of the benzalkonium chloride factor. I have a script and my
insurnace copay on it is $20 USD.

I'm gonna find out if it's possible to get Azep here by prescription -
probably not.

Care to tell what you paid for the Azep from NZ and where exactly you
ordered it from? If it's not too expensive, I might be inclined to
import some .

>I recently discovered that most of the antihistamines and steroid
>nasal sprays that are prescription-only in the U.S are sold as
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>
>HS
Harold - 22 Apr 2004 07:48 GMT
> Interesting. I live in the USA and have been using Astelin sparingly
> because of the benzalkonium chloride factor. I have a script and my
> insurnace copay on it is $20 USD.
>
> I'm gonna find out if it's possible to get Azep here by prescription -
> probably not.

Sorry, it's not sold by U.S. Pharmacies.  It would probably be illegal
to do so, given Astelin's presumably exclusive U.S. license.

> Care to tell what you paid for the Azep from NZ and where exactly you
> ordered it from? If it's not too expensive, I might be inclined to
> import some .

Unfortunately, Azep is *not* one of those products I referred to that
are lower in total cost than a insurance copay.  But the cost is still
very reasonable for a self-paid purchase -- probably about double your
co-pay for a similar amount of spray, including delivery.  I don't
want to risk being accused of spamming, so I'll just say that you
should be able to find the merchant I used pretty quickly by entering
these two search terms in the Google search box:  azep nz       In
figuring your cost, be sure to note that the bottle sizes are
different.  The Azep bottles I received are 10ml (70 sprays), while
the old Astelin bottle I have is 17ml (100 sprays).  (I'm not sure why
the ratio in ml's doesn't quite match the ratio of # of sprays.)

HS

> >I recently discovered that most of the antihistamines and steroid
> >nasal sprays that are prescription-only in the U.S are sold as
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> >HS
 
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