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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Sinusitis / February 2004My doctor's opinion on CanDo's Peroxide treatment
CanDo, I have had 4 sinus surgeries and have been told I needed one ASAP for over 2 years now which I have refused to have done. Before that I had 3 surgieries done between 1999 and 2001. I suffered from chronic sinus infections for over 25 years which have yet to improve. For the last 2 months I have been using the 3% hydrogen peroxide in a 1 to 10 mix with saline and baking soda. I run it through my water pik irrigator and when my sinuses are full of solution, I pinch my nose closed and lay on my back with my head leaning off the edge of the bed. I then roll onto my stomach in both directions for about 5 minutes until the solution feels like it has rinsed all over my sinus cavities. Just clear liquid drains for the first 12-24 hours but then for the next 24 hours thick yellow crud comes out. It comes out in solid pieces that could fill a tablespoon or two. After each irrigation smaller chunks of stuff have come out. I went to my current ENT yesterday (who I have been seeing for about 3 years) and he said my sinus tissue looks the healthiest it has ever looked since I have been seeing him. It was the first time he didn't tell me I needed to have surgery. He said for the first time he could see up into my sinus cavities and actually see what had been done during my past surgeries. He wrote down exactly what I have been doing and said keep it up because it appears to be helping. He still wants to do my regularly scheduled CT scans to make sure nothing else is going on but he was very impressed with my improvement. I will keep you posted if anything changes Wow! Does it burn at all? Any "strange" feelings with the peroxide in there? Does the peroxide foam up any like it does when gargled? > Wow! Does it burn at all? Any "strange" feelings with > the peroxide in there? Does the peroxide foam up any like > it does when gargled? It does burn at first and it also makes yours eyes water something awful. I want everyone to know that this is a very uncomfortable treatment. It takes some getting used to. I'm willing to put up with the serious discomfort since it appears to be helping long term. The perioxide does foam up quite a bit. The first couple of times I did it it made my whole body feel ill (my head, my stomach, and I was weak and feverish). I believe it was due to the large amount of gunk that was released from my sinuses into the rest of my body. While I did blow a lot of it out of my nose, I'm sure even more of it drained into my stomach. It no longer gives me that ill feeling, but it does give my sinuses a congested feeling for 2 days. I believe it irriatates the sinuses either directly from the peroxide or from the bacteria and fungus that is stirred up. This does go away though leaving me feeling better than when I started. Just so everyone knows I run the waterpik with the 30 ounces of saline and baking soda mix first. When it gets down to 10 ounces (there are measurements printed side of tank), I then add the one ounce of hydrogen peroxide and finish the irrigation with that mix. I just want everyone to know, I am not recommending or suggesting everyone try this. I just want people to know what has helped me especially since I have always been my doctor's worst nightmare. 2 years ago I went to one of the top ENT's at one of the top teaching hospitals in Houston and he told me my next step would be a Frontal Sinus Obliteration surgery. I declined to have that done. ..It doesn't take much of a sinus infection to make one feel ill. I recall a few years back, I felt miserable -- like I had a flu, or something. I had this terrible headache, stomach was upset etc. ....I decided to irrigate, then lie face down on the bed with a frozen face cloth placed on my sinuses. Within ten minutes, I lightly exhaled, and a bit of yellow/green material came out. I immediately irrigated, and flushed out, perhaps a tablespoon of infective crap. ..."Instantly", my flu like symptoms disappeared. ...No more headache, no more upset stomach. ...I had experienced these symptoms many times previously, and thought it was perhaps from something I had ate. ...Turns out, it was all to do with my sinuses. The first time I tried Cando's method, I got the feeling the H2O2 caused such an irritation that the sinuses basically "purged" themselves. ...I blew out blood and yellow material into my tub (the 1st. time I tried it), if only in a natural reaction to wanting to rid my nose of the burning sensation. (And by blowing, I mean I exhaled briskly.) ...I used this method a few times since, but having to endure a few days of a miserable, "runny" nose afterwards, I tend to shy away from it. ...I am fortunate in that my sinuses do not rule my life, although I know the infection is still within. ...It's like "Steven" mentioned in a post. As long as the infection is draining, you don't experience major problems. ...Assisting this drainage is what I tend to concentrate on. ..This may not lead to a cure, but it is a definite control. ..The biggest sinus improvement I have ever experienced was with my last flair-up. ...Instead of the Doc. prescribing his usual 250 mg. Levaquin per day, he stepped the dosage up to 500. ...I took it for 2 weeks, (which I don't think was quite long enough). ...At any rate, the pain around my eye (that had been vastly reduced by Cando's method), cleared up completely. ...Jon What is Cando's method? >Cando's method homer, you asked: "What is Cando's method?" Here is a link to an ongoing discussion and feedback forum about the "upside down sinus flooding", with peroxide, baking soda and kosher salt, that I use to effectively treat my sinus disease. This link also contains the latest, most up-to-date documentation. http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=129210 That's very impressive! In regards to "regularly scheduled CT scans", I might and keep the frequency to as low a number as possible - maybe one every couple of years at most - and try to use the endoscope as a substitute as much as possible. The radiation exposure is cumulative. It is not huge compared to natural sources, but it still does add up.... Scott, I am glad that the sinus flooding has helped your sinuses. Thanks for the feedback! You said: "I run it through my water pik irrigator and when my sinuses are full of solution, I pinch my nose closed and lay on my back with my head leaning off the edge of the bed. I then roll onto my stomach in both directions for about 5 minutes until the solution feels like it has rinsed all over my sinus cavities." Scott, when you are on your back, with your head flat, or leaning off the edge of the bed, and your nasal areas flooded, the opening to your Eustachian Tubes could be covered by liquid, and your middle ear is in a downward direction. So, if you were to swallow, or breath in through your flooded nose, or cough, or chew, or move your jaw, in that position, some of the mixture could flow down the Eustachian Tube into your middle ear. I have already had feedback from someone who used that position, and now has problems with fluid in his middle ear, like dizziness and ear pain. His nickname was Darkman. To read about his experiences, here is the link: http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=129210 I place the top of my forehead down on the shower floor. This position doesn't guarantee that the fluid won't contact the opening to the Eustachian Tubes, but it does place most of the liquid down and away from the openings, and should not place the middle ear in a position "downward" from the Eustachian Tube openings. If you are going to continue to do the floodings on your back, please be very careful. Once again, it is great that you are getting some benefit from the peroxide, baking soda, salt floodings. Let's hope for continued progress! Doesn't this possibly cause cataract problems? I have had about 5 CT scans and am somewhat curious about the effects of CT scans. >do my regularly scheduled CT scans |
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