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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Sinusitis / February 2004sinusmagic
Maybe try this? Can get at GNC http://www.sinusmagic.com/ http://www.sinusmagic.com/newsletter.htm >Maybe try this? Can get at GNC > >http://www.sinusmagic.com/ > >http://www.sinusmagic.com/newsletter.htm Why are you suggesting purely random things on the basis of ads? The Sinus Magic people were here on this forum and we pretty well debunked them. I wonder why I see it listed on the FAQ (in the hydration section) that was sent out the other day. It seems it was a new product at that time. I see FAQ was last updated 2/01. Thanks to the fellow (Reid Goldsborough) who did it. Maybe it needs updating again? << Why are you suggesting purely random things on the basis of ads? The Sinus Magic people were here on this forum and we pretty well debunked them. >><BR><BR> Sue M. >I wonder why I see it listed on the FAQ (in the hydration section) that was >sent out the other day. It seems it was a new product at that time. I see FAQ >was last updated 2/01. Thanks to the fellow (Reid Goldsborough) who did it. >Maybe it needs updating again? We were having a lot of discussions about their promotional actvities in 2000. I see they have gone on to achieve wide-spread distribution now - I suspect largely by aggressive promotion. I don't think we have seen any regular posters say that it worked for them. Reid tended toward being inclusive in the FAQ. Really the ingredients it has are not generally thought of as being effective or even plausible for sinusitis. Some wondered if the glycerine could be risky if accidentally inhaled into the lungs. The faq has not been revised but then again not that many things have changed (a few have such as new books). Nobody has been willing to work on revising it. >Maybe try this? Can get at GNC > >http://www.sinusmagic.com/ > >http://www.sinusmagic.com/newsletter.htm i bought sinus magic at a GNC store. i could be a good product, except they screwed up and threw a preservative - that i can't spell, but it's something like 'benzolokium' maybe - into it and that preservative is known to be harmful to mucous membranes and cilia. almost all OTC nasal sprays, saline or other have the same preservative. anyway, i decided not to even bother using it after discovery of the preservative. Wow. After not looking here for a while, I take a look again, and it seems like the forum never changes. "Sinusmagic" again? If you look at the forum today and look at it years ago, exact same kind of questions and answers. I guess we chronic disease sufferers, desperate to feel better, tend to be gullible about anything someone wants to sell us promising a "cure". > Maybe try this? Can get at GNC >Wow. After not looking here for a while, I take a look again, and it seems >like the forum never changes. "Sinusmagic" again? If you look at the forum >today and look at it years ago, exact same kind of questions and answers. > >I guess we chronic disease sufferers, desperate to feel better, tend to be >gullible about anything someone wants to sell us promising a "cure". Well said! Your return is quite timely actually....... > >Wow. After not looking here for a while, I take a look again, and it seems > >like the forum never changes. "Sinusmagic" again? If you look at the forum [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Your return is quite timely actually....... Why? It's interesting--I see the same questions as years ago--GSE, Sinusmagic, etc. Have you kept reading here all along, Don? Don't you get bored with it? >> Your return is quite timely actually....... > >Why? Because there have been some unscientific and borderline quack cures being touted here recently and you have always been good at debunking those. >It's interesting--I see the same questions as years ago--GSE, Sinusmagic, >etc. Have you kept reading here all along, Don? Don't you get bored with it? I have been here all along. There are always some good posts by some partcipants. I try to help out people too ..... >>> Your return is quite timely actually....... >> >>Why? > >Because there have been some unscientific and borderline quack cures being >touted here recently and you have always been good at debunking those. I'm very interested to know what "old timers" here think of the "Cando" method. ie the backwashing with peroxide/salt/baking powder while kneeling with head on floor. I'm interested in giving it a go, but a little wary of the possible problems that could be encountered. I'm also not sure what dilution of peroxide to use - I have a bottle which is 3% (3g/100ml) and I'm not sure whether it should be diluted further.... Also, I'm not sure exactly how much baking soda is meant to be added. "A pinch" could mean anything. Thanks, Sean Do NOT use straight peroxide even if it says 3% hydrogen perovide. Use just a splash. start small and then build up to what you can handle. I never go backwards I think it could get in the ears? I always lean forward to get into my frontal sinuse. Thats where my problems are. that and nasty trolls :) >>>> Your return is quite timely actually....... >>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Sean Many recommend adding baking soda to saline, to adjust the pH. The exact amount isn't really crucial. Some even suggest equal amounts of baking soda and salt. I wouldn't suggest much peroxide. It could really burn. I gargle with it straight, but I don't think the nose could take it. I really don't understand this "backwashing with head on floor". Sounds miserable. You'd get a pretty messy floor as well. I do turn my head in different positions while irrigating. > >>> Your return is quite timely actually....... > >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Sean >I'm very interested to know what "old timers" here think of the >"Cando" method. ie the backwashing with peroxide/salt/baking powder [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Also, I'm not sure exactly how much baking soda is meant to be added. >"A pinch" could mean anything. Well it is totally novel and therfore unproven. Anything invented yesterday with only anecdotal reports of success is not something that I personally would suggest to people. I don't see a lot of harm in it though if you want to try it...... << I'm very interested to know what "old timers" here think of the "Cando" method. ie the backwashing with peroxide/salt/baking powder while kneeling with head on floor. I'm interested in giving it a go, but a little wary of the possible problems that could be encountered. I'm also not sure what dilution of peroxide to use - I have a bottle which is 3% (3g/100ml) and I'm not sure whether it should be diluted further.... Also, I'm not sure exactly how much baking soda is meant to be added. "A pinch" could mean anything. Thanks, Sean >> <=======================> Hi Sean. I just placed a pinch of baking soda in a 1/8th tsp measuring thing. It took four pinches to fill the 1/8th teaspoon. It actually took about six pinches of salt to fill the 1/8th teaspoon. I use only a pinch of each, although I have used two pinches of baking soda occasionally. You can find detailed documention of how to do the "upside down sinus flooding", and many discussions from those who have used the process, at the following link: http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=129210 Regards, and best of luck with your sinus problems! > On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:07:02 -0800, " MS" <ms@nospam.com> > Because there have been some unscientific and borderline quack cures being > touted here recently and you have always been good at debunking those. ......and I was often harshly attacked for doing so. People don't like their beliefs being "debunked". >> Because there have been some unscientific and borderline quack cures being >> touted here recently and you have always been good at debunking those. > >......and I was often harshly attacked for doing so. I think you had the appreciation of many though, even though thet might not have said anything. >People don't like their >beliefs being "debunked". True. |
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