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Dissolve Aspirin in Irrigation Water ?

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Tony Banana - 03 Jan 2004 21:56 GMT
Has anybody ever tried this ?

Seems like a way to reduce swelling although
I'm not a biochemist so I don't know if it
would work.

What do you think ?

Tony
Steven Litvintchouk - 04 Jan 2004 03:07 GMT
> Has anybody ever tried this ?
>
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>
> What do you think ?

Aspirin does not work topically.

-- Steven L.
Joe - 05 Jan 2004 20:52 GMT
Couldn't it absorb just like all the other meds we spray
into our sinuses?

>> Has anybody ever tried this ?
>>
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>
> -- Steven L.
Sue milham - 07 Jan 2004 04:47 GMT
There are some problems with aspirin and sinuses, it can cause polyps.

<< Has anybody ever tried this ?

Seems like a way to reduce swelling although
I'm not a biochemist so I don't know if it
would work.

What do you think ?

Tony
>><BR><BR>

Sue M.
Joe - 07 Jan 2004 13:15 GMT
That's only implicated in Samter's Triad.  There is
a therapy for polyps if you have Samter's Triad that
involves desensitizing the patient to aspirin and then
taking a dose of aspirin ever day to PREVENT polyps.
I'm on it right now.  There are also other apparent
beneficial aspects of taking an aspirin a day.

http://www.allergycapital.com.au/Pages/Samters.html

> There are some problems with aspirin and sinuses, it can cause polyps.
>
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>
> Sue M.
Sue milham - 07 Jan 2004 16:29 GMT
Thanks for that link, Joe.  Over here in my part of USA, we are warned off of
aspirin in cases of polyps/asthma, even tho' they say it is only 10-20% of the
population that has the allergy.  I hadn't heard of it preventing polyps.  My
polyps have been returning slowly since FESS 9 years ago, and I was wondering
if Advil (ibuprofen) was contributing, since it is somehow in the aspirin
family.  My ENT, however, says he has no problems with me using it.  I'll print
it out and show it to him.

<< That's only implicated in Samter's Triad.  There is
a therapy for polyps if you have Samter's Triad that
involves desensitizing the patient to aspirin and then
taking a dose of aspirin ever day to PREVENT polyps.
I'm on it right now.  There are also other apparent
beneficial aspects of taking an aspirin a day.

http://www.allergycapital.com.au/Pages/Samters.html >><BR><BR>

Sue M.
Joe - 07 Jan 2004 18:30 GMT
"we are warned off of aspirin in cases of polyps/asthma"

That is what Samter Triad is all about.

A relation between...
1. aspirin
2. asthma
3. nasal polyps

I am almost certain that ibuprofen is NOT ok for someone with Samter's
Triad.  I believe I was told that when diagnosed.

This seems to back that up...

http://allergies.about.com/cs/aspirin/a/aa022800a.htm

I would look for an ENT to remove the polyps again and then
desensitize you to aspirin.  As long as the surgery goes ok
you have little to loose.  Taking an aspirin a day is
beneficial for your heart among other things anyways.

I had loads of polyps removed then a year later they were
back with a vengence.  My entire sinus area was totally
packed them.   My ENT took out almost "two coffee cups"
full of polyps.  I've been desensitized and they have
not returned yet.  It's only been about 4 month but I'm
hopeful.

My second sugery was done by an ENT who was open to
alternative treatments.  He's treated me for fungus for
about three months (based on the Mayo study) and now the
aspirin therapy.  I've never felt better in a long time.

> Thanks for that link, Joe.  Over here in my part of USA, we are warned off of
> aspirin in cases of polyps/asthma, even tho' they say it is only 10-20% of the
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>
> Sue M.
Sue milham - 09 Jan 2004 22:14 GMT
I am not allergic to aspirin.  My ENT only said it was looking a little polypy
now.  I'll have to ask him exactly what he means by that.  He okayed the advil
for me.  It is interesting to hear what happened to you.  Sounds a terrible
experience tho.  I hope you'll have it under control now.  Were you treated
with the topical amphorcetin b for fungi?  My fungal cultures always come back
negative.

<< "we are warned off of aspirin in cases of polyps/asthma"

That is what Samter Triad is all about.

A relation between...
1. aspirin
2. asthma
3. nasal polyps

I am almost certain that ibuprofen is NOT ok for someone with Samter's
Triad.  I believe I was told that when diagnosed.

This seems to back that up...

http://allergies.about.com/cs/aspirin/a/aa022800a.htm

I would look for an ENT to remove the polyps again and then
desensitize you to aspirin.  As long as the surgery goes ok
you have little to loose.  Taking an aspirin a day is
beneficial for your heart among other things anyways.

I had loads of polyps removed then a year later they were
back with a vengence.  My entire sinus area was totally
packed them.   My ENT took out almost "two coffee cups"
full of polyps.  I've been desensitized and they have
not returned yet.  It's only been about 4 month but I'm
hopeful.

My second sugery was done by an ENT who was open to
alternative treatments.  He's treated me for fungus for
about three months (based on the Mayo study) and now the
aspirin therapy.  I've never felt better in a long time.
>><BR><BR>

Sue M.
Joe - 10 Jan 2004 04:08 GMT
> I am not allergic to aspirin.  My ENT only said it was looking a little polypy
> now.  I'll have to ask him exactly what he means by that.  He okayed the advil
> for me.  It is interesting to hear what happened to you.  Sounds a terrible
> experience tho.  I hope you'll have it under control now.  Were you treated
> with the topical amphorcetin b for fungi?  My fungal cultures always come back
> negative.

Yes... amphotericin b.

> << "we are warned off of aspirin in cases of polyps/asthma"
>
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>
> Sue M.
ENTconsult - 16 Jan 2004 16:36 GMT
For our patients with nasal polyps we take them off of aspirin and all related
products like Motrin and Aleve.
However you described your nose as looking "polypy" so it may not be nasal
polyps.
By the way, there is an article that says its ok to take aspirin with nasal
polyps, but my experience says otherwise.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
SARLIS - 10 Jan 2004 02:26 GMT
>My second sugery was done by an ENT who was open to
>alternative treatments.  He's treated me for fungus for
>about three months (based on the Mayo study) and now the
>aspirin therapy.  I've never felt better in a long time.

Joe and Sue,

I have been following this thread with great interest. I have a
strange and complicated history with an anaphalactic reaction         to the
antibiotic ceclor and ibuprofen that lead to asthma and ideopathic hives for
four months in '89. Was seen at Mayo's,
triad mentioned but no polyps then.

After staying off all asprin, ibuprofen, and naproxin since then,
I have recently developed polyps and had an allergic reaction
to Vicodin after foot surgery this summer. But I  haven't had
any asthma since basically clearing up sinus infections with Grossan irrigator
in recent years.

Luckily polyps are not too much of a problem, but would sure
like to be able to take anti-inflamitories. Recovery from this foot surgery
was a bear without them. And as I age,not being able
to take asprin, etc. for heart and arthritis related concerns
are just that-a big concern!

Joe, I noticed that your post mentioned Central standard time.
I would be interested in knowing if your current ENT would
perhaps be located in the Chicago area?

I wonder how many of us can relate to this problem?

Linda
Joe - 10 Jan 2004 04:14 GMT
>>My second sugery was done by an ENT who was open to
>>alternative treatments.  He's treated me for fungus for
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>  any asthma since basically clearing up sinus infections with Grossan irrigator
> in recent years.

Even though I have been diagnosed with Samter Triad my
asthma is very, very slight.  It can be set off with
cigarette smoke or other allergens though.

> Luckily polyps are not too much of a problem, but would sure
>  like to be able to take anti-inflamitories. Recovery from this foot surgery
> was a bear without them. And as I age,not being able
>  to take asprin, etc. for heart and arthritis related concerns
>  are just that-a big concern!

Talk to an Immunologist to see if you could be desensitized.

> Joe, I noticed that your post mentioned Central standard time.
>  I would be interested in knowing if your current ENT would
>  perhaps be located in the Chicago area?

My posts shouldn't have mentioned CST.  I'm EST.  My
ENT is about 1 hour north of Detroit MI.  I drive
2.5 hours to get there.

> I wonder how many of us can relate to this problem?
>
> Linda
ENTconsult - 18 Jan 2004 01:49 GMT
You are not alone. I am allergic to aspirin and all aspirin related products.
For antiinflammatory use, ask your doctor about using enzymes such as
Clear.ease.  Often works well.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
SARLIS - 18 Jan 2004 16:13 GMT
>You are not alone. I am allergic to aspirin and all aspirin related products.
>For antiinflammatory use, ask your doctor about using enzymes such as
>Clear.ease.  Often works well.
>Murray Grossan, M.D.
>http://www.ent-consult.com

Dr. Grossan,

Do you mean enzymes, such as Clear ease,  for any type of anti-inflammatory use
or exclusively for sinus anti-inflammatory?

Also, as a physician, would you consider desensitization to asprin by highly
qualified allergist? That has been recommended on this board.

Many thanks,
Linda
ENTconsult - 19 Jan 2004 06:10 GMT
In theory one can be desensitized to aspirin but I haven't done  this or
recommended it in my practice.
Proteolytic enzymes such as Clear.ease are anti-inflammatory to joints,
sinuses, throat etc. Not as effective as prednisone but then they don't have
the side effects.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
m9168@yahoo.com - 18 Jan 2004 08:35 GMT
> >>My second sugery was done by an ENT who was open to
> >>alternative treatments.  He's treated me for fungus for
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> >
> > Linda

>> Joe, I wonder if you could give me the name of the doc who used the
irrigation meds? I live in that area and I am lookng for a new ENT.
THANKS,Mike (m9168@yahoo.com)
Joe - 21 Jan 2004 02:21 GMT
I found him from this site...

http://www.drmirkin.com/

specifically...

http://www.drmirkin.com/recommend/rec_docs.html

>>>>My second sugery was done by an ENT who was open to
>>>>alternative treatments.  He's treated me for fungus for
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> irrigation meds? I live in that area and I am lookng for a new ENT.
> THANKS,Mike (m9168@yahoo.com)
 
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