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Nasal sprays?

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Info - 06 May 2008 18:26 GMT
Maybe a duplicate question.  What are the nasal sprays you use?  I want the
names so I can look my ENT in the face and ask him,, "Would trying XYZ
hurt?"
dolysods@yahoo.com - 06 May 2008 19:40 GMT
> Maybe a duplicate question.  What are the nasal sprays you use?  I want the
> names so I can look my ENT in the face and ask him,, "Would trying XYZ
> hurt?"

Steroid sprays? or saline type?  I use Ayr and Xlear.. mostly the
Xlear now.  Nasonex when i need it but try not to since it makes my
nose bleed.
Info - 07 May 2008 01:11 GMT
>> Maybe a duplicate question.  What are the nasal sprays you use?  I want
>> the
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> Xlear now.  Nasonex when i need it but try not to since it makes my
> nose bleed.

I use a saline solution 3x a day and Flonase doesn't work.  I'll mention the
others to my doctor.  Thanks
Murray Grossan - 07 May 2008 07:01 GMT
On 5/6/08 11:40 AM, in article
545bb527-1c4e-4dcb-9fa2-ba23fb551e4c@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com,

>> Maybe a duplicate question.  What are the nasal sprays you use?  I want the
>> names so I can look my ENT in the face and ask him,, "Would trying XYZ
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> Xlear now.  Nasonex when i need it but try not to since it makes my
> nose bleed.

Does anyone have a good source for bulk Xylitol?  The place I use is well
priced but delivery is iffy.
Michael - 07 May 2008 10:13 GMT
> On 5/6/08 11:40 AM, in article
> 545bb527-1c4e-4dcb-9fa2-ba23fb551...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com,
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> Does anyone have a good source for bulk Xylitol?  The place I use is well
> priced but delivery is iffy.

I have used IHerb ( http://www.iherb.com/ ) for various products for
over five years;  delivery has always been very prompt.

Not certain what quantity you might mean by 'bulk' but what they offer
at present is:-

Xlear Inc, XyloSweet, 1 lb., $6.64, 5 lb. $26.80
Now Foods Xylitol 1lb. $6.65, 2.5 lbs. $14.24

Michael
dolysods@yahoo.com - 07 May 2008 12:56 GMT
> > On 5/6/08 11:40 AM, in article
> > 545bb527-1c4e-4dcb-9fa2-ba23fb551...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com,
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>
> Michael

Have you tried nasonex? rhinocort? I know there are others since left
the pharmacy. Others have went over the counter..nasalcrom. So far,
regular irrigation has helped me the most
dolysods@yahoo.com - 07 May 2008 13:40 GMT
On May 7, 7:56 am, dolys...@yahoo.com wrote:

> > > On 5/6/08 11:40 AM, in article
> > > 545bb527-1c4e-4dcb-9fa2-ba23fb551...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com,
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> the pharmacy. Others have went over the counter..nasalcrom. So far,
> regular irrigation has helped me the most

here is a list that i found:

This group of medications includes fluticasone propionate (Flonase),
mometasone (Nasonex), budesonide (Rhinocort Aqua), flunisolide
(Nasarel), triamcinolone (Nasacort AQ) and beclomethasone (Beconase
AQ). Fluticasone furoate (Veramyst) is the newest nasal steroid of the
market; it even appears to be helpful in the treatment of eye
allergies.

Topical Nasal Antihistamines

At the present time, there is only one medication in this category:
Azelastine (Astelin). Astelin is effective in treating allergic and
non-allergic rhinitis. It treats all nasal symptoms, similar to nasal
steroids, and should be used routinely for results.

Side effects are generally mild and include nasal irritation. Some
have reported sleepiness, too, as it is an older antihistamine similar
to diphenhydramine (Benadryl).

Topical Nasal Anticholinergics

Nasal ipratropium (Atrovent Nasal) works to dry up nasal secretions
and is recommended for the treatment of allergic rhinitis, non-
allergic rhinitis and symptoms of the common cold. It works great at
treating a “drippy nose,” but will not treat nasal itching or nasal
congestion symptoms.

Side effects are mild and typically include nasal irritation and
dryness.

Topical Nasal Mast Cell Stabilizers

Cromolyn (NasalCrom) is a medication that can prevent symptoms of
nasal allergies when used before exposure to allergens. This
medication prevents mast cells from releasing chemicals that cause
allergy symptoms. The medication does not treat allergy symptoms once
they have occurred, however. Therefore, it has only limited usefulness
for most people.

NasalCrom is now also available over-the-counter without a
prescription.
neil0502@yahoo.com - 08 May 2008 23:17 GMT
On May 7, 5:40 am, dolys...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On May 7, 7:56 am, dolys...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
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> NasalCrom is now also available over-the-counter without a
> prescription.

The thing about so many of these that I cannot say is easily
reconciled is that ... many are (still???) preserved with benzalkonium
chloride ... which is KNOWN to be harmful to our sinuses.

Same with eye drops: many of them are still preserved with BKC/BAK,
and it has nearly a half-century's documentation of being "cyctotoxic"
to corneal cells.

One day ... maybe ... I'll understand.....

Anyway ... all things being equal ... take the one that's either NOT
preserved, or -- at the very least -- is not preserved with
Benzalkonium Chloride.

IMHO ;-)
judy.n - 09 May 2008 23:24 GMT
On May 8, 6:17 pm, neil0...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On May 7, 5:40 am, dolys...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
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>
> IMHO ;-)

In reply to Murray Grossan--I think Trader Joe' sells xylitol.
Judy
MS - 20 Jun 2008 05:09 GMT
Vitacost.com or Vitaglo.com are cheaper, for supplements in general,
including xylitol.

I think for most of us, buying xylitol in bulk means buying a one pound
package. I think Dr. G. is asking about buying much larger quantities to use
commercially, in his product. I wouldn't know the best place to buy it that
way, probably not a place that sells supplements directly to consumers.

Perhaps directly from the manufacturer.

>> On 5/6/08 11:40 AM, in article
>> 545bb527-1c4e-4dcb-9fa2-ba23fb551...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com,
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>
> Michael
Murray Grossan - 20 Jun 2008 16:57 GMT
On 6/19/08 9:09 PM, in article YcG6k.360$4f6.187@fe107.usenetserver.com,

> Now Foods Xylitol 1lb. $6.65, 2.5 lbs. $14.24

That is a good price. Do you have a phone or web site address ?  Remember,
Xylitol is light weight, if you want to make a 1% solution you add two tsp
to 100 cc.
Susan - 24 Jun 2008 04:58 GMT
> On 6/19/08 9:09 PM, in article YcG6k.360$4f6.187@fe107.usenetserver.com,
>
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> Xylitol is light weight, if you want to make a 1% solution you add two tsp
> to 100 cc.

xylitolnow.com
Michael - 25 Jun 2008 19:36 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
>
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>
> xylitolnow.com

The prices I cited were from IHerb ( http://www.iherb.com/ ). I have
used them for various products for over five years,  delivery has
always been prompt and efficient.

Michael
MS - 07 Jul 2008 00:48 GMT
Yes., I think that listing was incorrectly attributed to me.

I have purchased supplements from iherb before, and they do have better
prices than you will pay in regular health-food stores.

However, I would guess, as I mentioned before, that the following two online
supplement merchants have lower prices for xylitol than Iherb does:

www.vitacost.com

www.vitaglo.com

>> x-no-archive: yes
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>
> Michael
MS - 20 Jun 2008 05:19 GMT
> Maybe a duplicate question.  What are the nasal sprays you use?  I want
> the names so I can look my ENT in the face and ask him,, "Would trying XYZ
> hurt?"

It all depends on what kind of nasal spray you are talking about. That is
rather a broad term, for anything sprayed in the nose. Kind of like asking:
"What kind of pills do you take?"

For OTC, good to use saline moisturizer spray often, to keep passages moist.
The aerosol ones like Simply Saline, now Ocean has a version too, also
Neilmed, are nice, in having no preservatives. (Often a better price can be
found on the net, than in your local drug store.)

Also OTC, the decongestant sprays, usually with oxymetazoline, like brand
name Afrin, and store generic brands. Works better than anything, including
better than rx sprays, if your passages are swollen and plugged up. (Not
meaning plugged up with phlegm, but actually swollen shut.) However, these
should not be used regularly, or can do harm.

Also OTC-cromolyn sodium, some kind of allergy prevention. Not sure if it
helps many.

Rx--most common type--steroid sprays--only useful if used regularly--such as
Flonase (also generic), Nasonex, Rhinocort, Nasacort, and others. The newest
one is called Omnaris--supposed to have the least systemic absorption--also
no benzalkonium (same with Rhinocort)--I'd recommend trying that one. Their
effectiveness is probably pretty similar.

As someone mentioned, ipratropium bromide (Atrovent Nasal, now generic
types), for drying out runny nose. (Doesn't help congestion.)

Also for drying out runny nose-Astelin, antihistamine nasal spray.

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