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Nasal sprays?
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Info - 06 May 2008 18:26 GMT Maybe a duplicate question. What are the nasal sprays you use? I want the names so I can look my ENT in the face and ask him,, "Would trying XYZ hurt?"
dolysods@yahoo.com - 06 May 2008 19:40 GMT > Maybe a duplicate question. What are the nasal sprays you use? I want the > names so I can look my ENT in the face and ask him,, "Would trying XYZ > hurt?" Steroid sprays? or saline type? I use Ayr and Xlear.. mostly the Xlear now. Nasonex when i need it but try not to since it makes my nose bleed.
Info - 07 May 2008 01:11 GMT >> Maybe a duplicate question. What are the nasal sprays you use? I want >> the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Xlear now. Nasonex when i need it but try not to since it makes my > nose bleed. I use a saline solution 3x a day and Flonase doesn't work. I'll mention the others to my doctor. Thanks
Murray Grossan - 07 May 2008 07:01 GMT On 5/6/08 11:40 AM, in article 545bb527-1c4e-4dcb-9fa2-ba23fb551e4c@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com,
>> Maybe a duplicate question. What are the nasal sprays you use? I want the >> names so I can look my ENT in the face and ask him,, "Would trying XYZ [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Xlear now. Nasonex when i need it but try not to since it makes my > nose bleed. Does anyone have a good source for bulk Xylitol? The place I use is well priced but delivery is iffy.
Michael - 07 May 2008 10:13 GMT > On 5/6/08 11:40 AM, in article > 545bb527-1c4e-4dcb-9fa2-ba23fb551...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Does anyone have a good source for bulk Xylitol? The place I use is well > priced but delivery is iffy. I have used IHerb ( http://www.iherb.com/ ) for various products for over five years; delivery has always been very prompt.
Not certain what quantity you might mean by 'bulk' but what they offer at present is:-
Xlear Inc, XyloSweet, 1 lb., $6.64, 5 lb. $26.80 Now Foods Xylitol 1lb. $6.65, 2.5 lbs. $14.24
Michael
dolysods@yahoo.com - 07 May 2008 12:56 GMT > > On 5/6/08 11:40 AM, in article > > 545bb527-1c4e-4dcb-9fa2-ba23fb551...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Michael Have you tried nasonex? rhinocort? I know there are others since left the pharmacy. Others have went over the counter..nasalcrom. So far, regular irrigation has helped me the most
dolysods@yahoo.com - 07 May 2008 13:40 GMT On May 7, 7:56 am, dolys...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > On 5/6/08 11:40 AM, in article > > > 545bb527-1c4e-4dcb-9fa2-ba23fb551...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > the pharmacy. Others have went over the counter..nasalcrom. So far, > regular irrigation has helped me the most here is a list that i found:
This group of medications includes fluticasone propionate (Flonase), mometasone (Nasonex), budesonide (Rhinocort Aqua), flunisolide (Nasarel), triamcinolone (Nasacort AQ) and beclomethasone (Beconase AQ). Fluticasone furoate (Veramyst) is the newest nasal steroid of the market; it even appears to be helpful in the treatment of eye allergies.
Topical Nasal Antihistamines
At the present time, there is only one medication in this category: Azelastine (Astelin). Astelin is effective in treating allergic and non-allergic rhinitis. It treats all nasal symptoms, similar to nasal steroids, and should be used routinely for results.
Side effects are generally mild and include nasal irritation. Some have reported sleepiness, too, as it is an older antihistamine similar to diphenhydramine (Benadryl).
Topical Nasal Anticholinergics
Nasal ipratropium (Atrovent Nasal) works to dry up nasal secretions and is recommended for the treatment of allergic rhinitis, non- allergic rhinitis and symptoms of the common cold. It works great at treating a “drippy nose,” but will not treat nasal itching or nasal congestion symptoms.
Side effects are mild and typically include nasal irritation and dryness.
Topical Nasal Mast Cell Stabilizers
Cromolyn (NasalCrom) is a medication that can prevent symptoms of nasal allergies when used before exposure to allergens. This medication prevents mast cells from releasing chemicals that cause allergy symptoms. The medication does not treat allergy symptoms once they have occurred, however. Therefore, it has only limited usefulness for most people.
NasalCrom is now also available over-the-counter without a prescription.
neil0502@yahoo.com - 08 May 2008 23:17 GMT On May 7, 5:40 am, dolys...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On May 7, 7:56 am, dolys...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > NasalCrom is now also available over-the-counter without a > prescription. The thing about so many of these that I cannot say is easily reconciled is that ... many are (still???) preserved with benzalkonium chloride ... which is KNOWN to be harmful to our sinuses.
Same with eye drops: many of them are still preserved with BKC/BAK, and it has nearly a half-century's documentation of being "cyctotoxic" to corneal cells.
One day ... maybe ... I'll understand.....
Anyway ... all things being equal ... take the one that's either NOT preserved, or -- at the very least -- is not preserved with Benzalkonium Chloride.
IMHO ;-)
judy.n - 09 May 2008 23:24 GMT On May 8, 6:17 pm, neil0...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On May 7, 5:40 am, dolys...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > > IMHO ;-) In reply to Murray Grossan--I think Trader Joe' sells xylitol. Judy
MS - 20 Jun 2008 05:09 GMT Vitacost.com or Vitaglo.com are cheaper, for supplements in general, including xylitol.
I think for most of us, buying xylitol in bulk means buying a one pound package. I think Dr. G. is asking about buying much larger quantities to use commercially, in his product. I wouldn't know the best place to buy it that way, probably not a place that sells supplements directly to consumers.
Perhaps directly from the manufacturer.
>> On 5/6/08 11:40 AM, in article >> 545bb527-1c4e-4dcb-9fa2-ba23fb551...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Michael Murray Grossan - 20 Jun 2008 16:57 GMT On 6/19/08 9:09 PM, in article YcG6k.360$4f6.187@fe107.usenetserver.com,
> Now Foods Xylitol 1lb. $6.65, 2.5 lbs. $14.24 That is a good price. Do you have a phone or web site address ? Remember, Xylitol is light weight, if you want to make a 1% solution you add two tsp to 100 cc.
Susan - 24 Jun 2008 04:58 GMT > On 6/19/08 9:09 PM, in article YcG6k.360$4f6.187@fe107.usenetserver.com, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Xylitol is light weight, if you want to make a 1% solution you add two tsp > to 100 cc. xylitolnow.com
Michael - 25 Jun 2008 19:36 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > xylitolnow.com The prices I cited were from IHerb ( http://www.iherb.com/ ). I have used them for various products for over five years, delivery has always been prompt and efficient.
Michael
MS - 07 Jul 2008 00:48 GMT Yes., I think that listing was incorrectly attributed to me.
I have purchased supplements from iherb before, and they do have better prices than you will pay in regular health-food stores.
However, I would guess, as I mentioned before, that the following two online supplement merchants have lower prices for xylitol than Iherb does:
www.vitacost.com
www.vitaglo.com
>> x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Michael MS - 20 Jun 2008 05:19 GMT > Maybe a duplicate question. What are the nasal sprays you use? I want > the names so I can look my ENT in the face and ask him,, "Would trying XYZ > hurt?" It all depends on what kind of nasal spray you are talking about. That is rather a broad term, for anything sprayed in the nose. Kind of like asking: "What kind of pills do you take?"
For OTC, good to use saline moisturizer spray often, to keep passages moist. The aerosol ones like Simply Saline, now Ocean has a version too, also Neilmed, are nice, in having no preservatives. (Often a better price can be found on the net, than in your local drug store.)
Also OTC, the decongestant sprays, usually with oxymetazoline, like brand name Afrin, and store generic brands. Works better than anything, including better than rx sprays, if your passages are swollen and plugged up. (Not meaning plugged up with phlegm, but actually swollen shut.) However, these should not be used regularly, or can do harm.
Also OTC-cromolyn sodium, some kind of allergy prevention. Not sure if it helps many.
Rx--most common type--steroid sprays--only useful if used regularly--such as Flonase (also generic), Nasonex, Rhinocort, Nasacort, and others. The newest one is called Omnaris--supposed to have the least systemic absorption--also no benzalkonium (same with Rhinocort)--I'd recommend trying that one. Their effectiveness is probably pretty similar.
As someone mentioned, ipratropium bromide (Atrovent Nasal, now generic types), for drying out runny nose. (Doesn't help congestion.)
Also for drying out runny nose-Astelin, antihistamine nasal spray.
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