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Need Opinion on Nasal Spray product

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paure - 30 Apr 2008 23:35 GMT
I just ran across a product I have never heard of or used and wondered
if anyone else has?  It is called Homeopathic Olive Leaf Nasal Spray
and it's made by a company called Seagate in San Diego, CA.  Just
wondering if anyone has used this product and is it safe to use?

It contains:  Olive Leaf Extract, Wild Indigo and Grapefruit seed
extract.

I was thinking about trying it.  I'm not trying to promote this
product or sell it, or have anything to do with the company.  I'm just
trying to get relief for my sinus condition.  What I'm using now, the
antihistamines, nasal steroid sprays and saline irrigation, don't seem
to be as beneficial as they were when I first started using them.

Thanks.
Oakfed - 01 May 2008 06:38 GMT
>I just ran across a product I have never heard of or used and wondered
>if anyone else has?  It is called Homeopathic Olive Leaf Nasal Spray...
>
>It contains:  Olive Leaf Extract, Wild Indigo and Grapefruit seed
>extract.

Homeopathy has no plausible method of operation, and works no better
than placebo in well-controlled studies.

If this is actually a homeopathic product, then what it contains is
water. Homeopathic dilutions are so dilute that odds are there's no
molecules of the original substance left (for instance, a '10c'
dilution has been diluted to one part in 100, 10 times).

Worse, because there are virtually no control or monitoring of
homeopathic products, there's not even a guarantee that they're just
water. There have been cases of manufacturers adding real ingredients
to products claiming to be homeopathic in order to provide some
effectiveness, and also cases of products carelessly prepared and
contaminated.

I don't see any reason to use homeopathic products.

http://www.ncahf.org/pp/homeop.html
neil0502@yahoo.com - 01 May 2008 17:06 GMT
Elizabeth?

This LOOKS interesting, but ... I don't know what I don't know:

http://www.seagateproducts.com/Nasal-Spray-Lab-Report.pdf

What say you??

TIA,
Neil
truehawk - 02 May 2008 00:48 GMT
On May 1, 12:06 pm, neil0...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Elizabeth?
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> TIA,
> Neil

It looks like they inoculated the nasal spray with bacteria (which
would be free floating bacteria, the state in which they are most
vulnerable to any antimicrobial).
The bacteria will not grow in the undiluted product, but begin to grow
when it is diluted 10 times.
The solution does not look like a very effective bactericide, so
killing, probably not.
There could be other effects, like some factor that is an analog of
the quorum sensing chemicals that the bacteria use to communicate.
I tried greatfruit extract and olive leaf extract and did not find
them effective enough to continue to use, but I have never tried the
combination. But my zoo may be different from anyone elses. My advice
is for someone to try it and report back.
By the way, re reporting back, St John's Wort works about as well as
Biaxin against my bugs.
 
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