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LooLoo - 24 Apr 2008 01:28 GMT
I am looking for any advice or moral support!  Here is my background.  Sinus
surgery in about 2000 to remove polyps, open up, etc.  Went OK.  Second sinus
surger in November 2007...removed more polyps, clean/open up, fix mild
deviated septum.  I have had a (not sure  how to spell it) staphoccocus
aureas positive infection since Christmas 2007. At one point, I had strep and
staph infection in my sinuses.  I have been on antibiotics almost non stop
since December 2007.  Names I can remember are amoxicillan, augmentin,
zithromax, ceftin, keflex, levoquin, clindamyacin and also gentamyacin nasal
rinse and a anti-fungal med injected in my nose.  I have also taken seveal
medrol dose packs and a kenalog injection.  I may have missed a few meds in
the list, not sure.  I just can't kick this staph infection.  Any suggestions?
A friend of mine suggested I persue IV antibiotic...not sure what that means.
What med would you suggest next???? My face under the eyes an cheek are
throbs and hurts all the time, feels like a was hit in the face.  My front
teeth throb as well.  The pain subsides with some treatment but starts again
when the pills are done.  I have had numerous sinus cultures done over the
past several months.
Any help is greatlly appreciated!
Steven L. - 24 Apr 2008 02:25 GMT
> I am looking for any advice or moral support!  Here is my background.  Sinus
> surgery in about 2000 to remove polyps, open up, etc.  Went OK.  Second sinus
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> past several months.
> Any help is greatlly appreciated!

Have you had a sinus culture taken from the ducts of your sinuses?

You should have a complete immunological workup to see if your immune
system is functioning properly.

You should be tested for mycoplasma infection in your sinuses.

You should be tested for HIV if you're sexually active.

Question:  How did your sinus problems start in the first place?  Did
they start when you were an adult or a child?  Was the onset sudden?
Did it start after some major change to your lifestyle (relocation,
etc.?)?  If so, then maybe you need some lifestyle changes.  Relocation
helped me a lot.

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LooLoo - 24 Apr 2008 02:58 GMT
My immune system is on the lower end of normal.  I have had issues for
several years.  It just seems that I cannot get rid of this specific
infection for sme reason.  What is mycoplasma infection?
I will get another culture this week.  So far, each culture was staph.....

>> I am looking for any advice or moral support!  Here is my background.  Sinus
>> surgery in about 2000 to remove polyps, open up, etc.  Went OK.  Second sinus
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>etc.?)?  If so, then maybe you need some lifestyle changes.  Relocation
>helped me a lot.
Steven L. - 24 Apr 2008 06:29 GMT
> My immune system is on the lower end of normal.  I have had issues for
> several years.  

You might be a candidate for immunoglobulin therapy.  Consult a
qualified immunologist (NOT a glorified allergist).

> It just seems that I cannot get rid of this specific
> infection for sme reason.  What is mycoplasma infection?

go here:
http://www.sinuses.com/NTMabstract.htm
or here:
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6046064

> I will get another culture this week.  So far, each culture was staph.....

You might be a candidate for vancomycin, the "last resort" antibiotic.
Consult an infectious disease specialist.

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truehawk - 24 Apr 2008 07:35 GMT
> > My immune system is on the lower end of normal.  I have had issues for
> > several years.
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Search the list for "tannin" and read the messages you find there.

I have staph in my sinuses that has had the same sensitivity profile
to antibiotics since 2001.

According to it's MICs it should have been wiped out LONG ago as the
antibiotics that I have been given wipe out the lab culture.
The worst part of it, since i got rid of enough of it to be able to
breath at night, has been the extreame heartburn that it causes if I
don't treat it with prilosec or pepsid.
Staph is sufficient by itself to persist once it establishes a
biofilm, and it is NEVER there alone. Chronic sinusitis is a disease
caused by bacteria that get a foothold any time that you have had the
flu and have accumulated in your air filter over a life time.
It was also suggested that I might be immune deficient, but my immune
system is just dandy. It only needs a spot where a virus has killed
the cilia to move on in.
Staph also produces an enzyme that allows it to spread the walls of
blood cells to make them weep blood and coagulese that converts
fibernectin to fibrin so ti can make it's biofilm, that clear
insoluible springy mucus, at practically no metabolic cost and it
destroys trans membrane conductance factor, so it upsets the osmotic
balance of epitihieal cells in a way that leads to less fluid to wash
away the mucus.
tea and Mupricin,and canada balsam washes are somewhat effective in
reducing it's footprint.
Also the Soviet government has  refined and used Lysic phages
(viruses) that kill staph for the last 50 years if you can get over
there. There was one lady that went over because she had had multiple
surgeries and was told that she had stomach cancer  and only 6 months
to live, she also had arthritis, DM, and a whole list of other
symptoms . When here sinus infection was treated, all her other
symptoms cleared up too.  I called her and she said that she had had
to go over twice to Georgia twice, but was now disease free.   Her
treatment cost 15,000 which included airfare, 2-3 week stays  in
Tbilize, and her treatments. The hospital is evidently falling down
around their ears, but the people and the technologies are still
there.
http://www.phagetherapycenter.com/pii/PatientServlet?command=static_home&secnavp
os=-1&language=0

The knock on phage therapy is that the proper doubleblind placebo
controlled trials have not been done. The soviets gave it to people on
one side of the street, and everyone on both sides of the street got
well.
Recently experiments in this country have used phages adhered to
plastic beads so they can't get away and cure people that have not
paid for it, so we might see them in this country before too long.
Fred - 25 Apr 2008 02:24 GMT
> I am looking for any advice or moral support! �Here is my background. �Sinus
> surgery in about 2000 to remove polyps, open up, etc. �Went OK. �Second sinus
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> past several months.
> Any help is greatlly appreciated!

How are you sleeping?  Any sleep apnea.  If you don't sleep well, you
immune system is depressed because during your sleep, cortisone is
produced.  Cortisone is the hormone that enables your body to heal.
Maybe that and an increased amount of nasal washes to get some of the
infection out.
LooLoo - 25 Apr 2008 02:55 GMT
No sleep apnea that I know of.  I looked at my last culture report.  The
staph infection is resistent to penicillin and erythromycin. I had another
cuture today so we will see what that is.  As I type, my face is throbbing!
Maybe I should just quite all antibiotics and just sit it out????

>> I am looking for any advice or moral support! �Here is my background. �Sinus
>> surgery in about 2000 to remove polyps, open up, etc. �Went OK. �Second sinus
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Maybe that and an increased amount of nasal washes to get some of the
>infection out.
truehawk - 25 Apr 2008 04:35 GMT
> No sleep apnea that I know of.  I looked at my last culture report.  The
> staph infection is resistent to penicillin and erythromycin. I had another
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I know that you feel terrible. This stufff manufactures toxins that
stun and kill immune cells and I think the CNS effects of those toxins
are grogginess, aphasia and depression. You, your consciousness and
your intelligence are part of your immune system the mindful part..
You could quit all antibiotics, or you could do some research and
resolve to kill it before it strangles the joy of life out of you.
There are combinations of antibiotics and antifungals that work,
specificly a macrolide such as biaxin  to cover the staph, combined
with sporanox to cover the fungi, and bactrium to cover the
actinomycetes all at once and together and for a minimum of a month,
along with tannin washes to wash our the fibrin mucus.
But Hey, Your nose, your life, your choice.
LooLoo - 19 Jul 2008 02:08 GMT
I am still having the same problems...however I now have psuedonoma some kind
of infection?
any thoughts?

>> No sleep apnea that I know of.  I looked at my last culture report.  The
>> staph infection is resistent to penicillin and erythromycin. I had another
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>along with tannin washes to wash our the fibrin mucus.
>But Hey, Your nose, your life, your choice.

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