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truehawk - 28 Mar 2008 15:30 GMT
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070820200004.htm

ScienceDaily (Aug. 22, 2007) -- Researchers from Italy have identified
a bacteriophage active against Staphylococcus aureus, including
methicillin-resistant strains, in mice and possibly humans.
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S. aureus is a highly flexible and potentially dangerous pathogen
capable of causing skin abscesses, wound infections, endocarditis,
osteomyelitis, pneumonia and toxic shock syndrome. Due to the
organism's ability to live inside cells, emerging strains are
increasingly resistant to antibiotics. Currently, forty to sixty
percent of reported nosocomial S. aureus infections in the United
States and the United Kingdom are multi-drug resistant with
methicillin-resistant S. aureus carrying a significantly higher
mortality rate.

A bacteriophage, or phage for short, is a virus that infects bacteria.
In the study researchers identified the phage, MSa, and tested its
activity against S. aureus in mice. Following simultaneous inoculation
with both MSa and lethal and non-lethal doses of S. aureus results
showed MSa rescued ninety-seven percent of mice from death and fully
cleared mice of non-lethal bacterial infections.

"These results suggest a potential use of the phage for the control of
both local and systemic human S. aureus infections," say the
researchers.

These findings are reported in the August 2007 issue of the journal
Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy.

Reference: R. Capparelli, M. Parlato, G. Borriello, P. Salvatore, D.
Iannelli. 2007. Experimental phage therapy against Staphylococcus
aureus in mice. Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, 51. 8:
2765-2773.

Adapted from materials provided by American Society for Microbiology,
via EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS.
dygerati@gmail.com - 28 Mar 2008 18:13 GMT
Is this the same methods they use at the Phage clinic in the Republic
of Georgia? Can't find the site right now, but I'm sure you know the
one I speak of.
truehawk - 28 Mar 2008 22:32 GMT
On Mar 28, 1:13 pm, dyger...@gmail.com wrote:
> Is this the same methods they use at the Phage clinic in the Republic
> of Georgia? Can't find the site right now, but I'm sure you know the
> one I speak of.

The phage therapy center? Yeah. This is the Italian version.

http://www.phagetherapycenter.com/pii/PatientServlet?command=static_home

As I understand it the Ruskis do not have an adequate body of work,
double blind placebo controlled studies with documentation, that their
phage therapy works with humans.
Doing a little more investigation, the problem seems to have been that
when the original work was done, the people that they gave the phages
to recovered, and so did the controls.  Everyone got well.
Which either says something about the compassion of the Russian
research Drs, or the ability of the phages to slip their leash. The
fact that staph infections cleared up in 2 or 3 days in people that
were given the anti-staph phages was enough proof for the Russians,
because they went into production and have been at it for the last 50
years.
dygerati@gmail.com - 31 Mar 2008 18:54 GMT
Found an article that gives a good overview of the "situtation."

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/andrewkantor/2006-07-06-phage-therapy_x.htm
truehawk - 31 Mar 2008 21:30 GMT
On Mar 31, 1:54 pm, dyger...@gmail.com wrote:
> Found an article that gives a good overview of the "situtation."
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/andrewkantor/2006-07-06-phage-...

Yes it is hard to make a profit from a treatment where they treated
people on one side of the street, and people on both sides of the
street got well, which is what happened.
It would require something like the development by a charity for the
public good.  But then is that not what government supposed to be
for.  A way for citizens to pool their resources to provide for the
public good?

I corresponded with Phage International's information guy a bit in
2006, as I was hot to go to T for treatment.
They were not allowed to open the clinic in Mexico.
I think the Mexican govt finally told them that they considered the
Soviet phages too dangerous.
Then the head microbiologist form the Elvira lab offered to visit and
segregate phages from the local environment to purify and use for
treatment, but the officials would not approve that either.

I believe that Indian Reservations might want to look at this, since
diabetic foot is a frequent cause of amputation and phages rout those
infections. And it would be profitable at least for a while until a
critical mass of everyone carried anti-staph and anti e-coli phages.
It would also be instructive to look at the incidence of sinusitis and
the incidence of Alzheimer's disease in areas where phages are
commonly used vs the United States.  I have heard comments to the
effect that both are low in Eastern Europe, and the reason ascribed to
several different causes, but I have seen no formal epidemiological
studies, much less ones that considered phages as one of the factors.
Susan - 31 Mar 2008 22:00 GMT
> I believe that Indian Reservations might want to look at this, since
> diabetic foot is a frequent cause of amputation and phages rout those
> infections.

In the case of diabetes, those infections have a way of becoming readily
healed once blood glucose is very tightly managed by cutting dietary
carbs to a near minimum, and background insulin added if beta cell die
off is very advanced.

They are SO easy to prevent and no treatment will ultimately work in the
environment of glucose spikes and resultant endogenous or exogenous high
insulin.

Susan
truehawk - 01 Apr 2008 03:28 GMT
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> Susan

And yet many people with non-healing foot ulcers have been healed with
phages.
The main investors in phage therapy are doctors who treat this type of
wound who have sent patients there when amputation was the only other
alternative.
And sometimes the diabetes itself disappears as well.
Susan - 01 Apr 2008 13:57 GMT
> And yet many people with non-healing foot ulcers have been healed with
> phages.
> The main investors in phage therapy are doctors who treat this type of
> wound who have sent patients there when amputation was the only other
> alternative.
>  And sometimes the diabetes itself disappears as well.

Infections are well known to raise blood glucose, but I can promise you
that the diabetes doesn't disappear.  It may seemt that way because DM
begins at bg levels FAR below the currently used diagnostic ranges, and
because almost all DM diagnoses are missed until many years progressed,
due to use of fasting tests for screening.  Post meal numbers spike and
do damage for many years before fasting even begins to rise.

I'm sure treating infections lowers bg, but does not cure DM.

Susan
 
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