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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Sinusitis / March 2008bloody nose...
It's been about a week that i've been off the antibiotics. I'm still irrigating with the neti pot (salt, baking soda, glycerin) 2-3 times a day. I stopped using my nasonex for a couple of days thinking that was doing it. Now when i blow my nose I will have about 4-5 tissues of bloody snot. If i just stick the edge of the tissue in my nose it is covered in blood. I believe it is coming from my nostrils....but not sure At what point do i worry about it? I have had sinus pain but not really a headache since i've been off the omnicef. I also run two humidifiers thanks > It's been about a week that i've been off the antibiotics. I'm still > irrigating with the neti pot (salt, baking soda, glycerin) 2-3 times a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > At what point do i worry about it? If you want your chronic nosebleed to get better, you must stop blowing your nose. Or else blow it VERY gently, little more than breathing out hard from your nose. Every time you blow hard you're blowing the clot out again. If blood is oozing out, just dab at your nose with a clean tissue. Don't blow it out.  SignatureSteven L. Email: sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. On Mar 23, 6:37 pm, dolys...@yahoo.com wrote: > It's been about a week that i've been off the antibiotics. I'm still > irrigating with the neti pot (salt, baking soda, glycerin) 2-3 times a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > thanks There is some stuff that you can get some Ayr nasal gel. It will keep your sinus membranes moistened. This should aid in healing. Fred Some of the nasal rinses or nose drops have Benza.. in it and that causes me to have nose bleeds. I use Ayr which does not have it in, and no more nose bleeds. I just use a tissue to absorb it, not blowing it out. shirleyann > Some of the nasal rinses or nose drops have Benza.. in it and that > causes me to have nose bleeds. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > shirleyann A nose bleed means that something is creating, or has created a wound that has not been allowed to heal. I am not sure that blood is not a positive sign, because that is what comes out after if the yellow mat detaches suddenly. Michael's tea wash is astringent, antibacterial, mild and nonirritating. 4 bags of black tea to a cup, plus 1/8 tsp salt, 1/2 tsp lemon juice, 4 packets of splenda. . > A nose bleed means that something is creating, or has created a wound > that has not been allowed to heal. > I am not sure that blood is not a positive sign, because that is what > comes out after if the yellow mat detaches suddenly. Steroid sprays also cause skin and mucosal atrophy, the skin is much more fragile and bleeds easily when blowing the nose. Incidentally, it's very common for me and other Cushing's patients to have RBCs, pus and epithelial cells in urine without infection for this reason. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Susan Well, i'm doing my best to only blow my nose after irrigating or when i've used several sprays of saline. It is when it is dry that I had been blowing more or harder. I've always had a bloody nose or snot to some degree just because of the winter and dry air. I use my nasonex at night because it helps alleviate some of the swelling/ puffiness and congestion in the morning. On Mar 25, 6:38 am, dolys...@yahoo.com wrote: > Well, i'm doing my best to only blow my nose after irrigating or when > i've used several sprays of saline. It is when it is dry that I had > been blowing more or harder. I've always had a bloody nose or snot > to some degree just because of the winter and dry air. I use my > nasonex at night because it helps alleviate some of the swelling/ > puffiness and congestion in the morning. Hi :-) Jonny One-Note here! Nasonex is preserved with Benzalkonium Chloride (BKC). BKC is /known/ to be Drano (drain cleaner) for the sinuses. By that, I do NOT mean "clears out the pipes." I do, however, mean caustic and harmful. Here's one quick article -- first that came up on a Google: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WP4-481F7XF-B&_user=1 0&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVers ion=0&_userid=10&md5=a5901bf765cc79cfd58eadbf0770bf44 OR: http://tinyurl.com/2fhqvk BKC has a well-documented history (decades) of causing significant harm to eyes and sinuses. Because dry eyes or problem sinuses do NOT function the same as normal ones (eg, aren't as wet), the concentration of BKC on the cells is even higher. If it were me .... I'd talk about this -- and your current symptoms -- with your doctor. Your sinuses sound like they're in pretty bad shape. If it were me, that would make me even MORE likely to avoid BKC. Best of luck! Neil On Mar 25, 10:21 am, neil0...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Mar 25, 6:38 am, dolys...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Best of luck! > Neil Is there one without the BKC? nasonex was given to me because it is supposed to be less irritating. Doc gave me a sample of flonase a few years ago and it was almost an instant nose bleed. Compared to others I dont' think i'm in that bad of shape.. or maybe i've just become accustomed to it? > Is there one without the BKC? nasonex was given to me because it is > supposed to be less irritating. Doc gave me a sample of flonase a few > years ago and it was almost an instant nose bleed. Compared to others > I dont' think i'm in that bad of shape.. or maybe i've just become > accustomed to it? Only Rhinocort that I know of. But you should not be relying on steady use of any steroid, inhaled or otherwise. A.m. only, every other day usage could help preserve your HPA axis function. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Susan Rhinocort didn't work as well for me.. but i used it in the morning. If i take decongestants too late in the day, i can't sleep On Mar 25, 11:08 am, dolys...@yahoo.com wrote: > > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Rhinocort didn't work as well for me.. but i used it in the morning. > If i take decongestants too late in the day, i can't sleep Love my massage therapist! She has worked on my sinuses before but i got a lot of relief and drainage after my session last night. I wasn't as congested this morning and i didn't use my nasonex. On 3/26/08 6:31 AM, in article ee0ec377-8ca8-42e7-a32c-0999d397a83c@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com, > On Mar 25, 11:08 am, dolys...@yahoo.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > got a lot of relief and drainage after my session last night. I wasn't > as congested this morning and i didn't use my nasonex. If you are having bleeding from the nose, any cortisone spray will increase that bleeding by thinning the mucosa. > On 3/26/08 6:31 AM, in article > ee0ec377-8ca8-42e7-a32c-0999d397a...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com, [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > If you are having bleeding from the nose, any cortisone spray will increase > that bleeding by thinning the mucosa. I haven't used it in 3 days. Which in turn causes me to wake up congested, swollen, fatigued :o( I do have a little bottle of Xlear.. it helps along with irrigation. This morning i thought i had a glob of mucous coming down and when i *gently* blew my nose it was a scab/ clot. I will probably call the doctor tomorrow or monday. I can't take entex pse 24/7 and sleep, or afford more visits to the LMT. My MD gave me a prescription for Nasacort as I told him Claritin did not seem to be helping me anymore. I was having sinus problems too. shirleyann > Well, i'm doing my best to only blow my nose after irrigating or when > i've used several sprays of saline. It is when it is dry that I had > been blowing more or harder. I've always had a bloody nose or snot > to some degree just because of the winter and dry air. I use my > nasonex at night because it helps alleviate some of the swelling/ > puffiness and congestion in the morning. Nightime is the worst time to use any kind of steroid. Use at night suppresses your HPA axis for 24 hours, use in the a.m. suppresses for 12 hours. Maybe you could use a decongestant at night? Susan
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