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Fred - 13 Mar 2008 13:04 GMT
Someone on this NG mentioned the "foggy" feeling that many sinus
sufferes suffer.  I started noticing some problems early in my life.
I was 14 and sitting in study hall when I noticed that one of my nasal
passages was totally closed.  The tissue was filled with mucus and
would not drain.   At a younger age, teachers were asking us about
dreams.  I cound not remember my dreams.  I was also having a lot of
trouble getting up in the morning.  I was always so tired.  I was not
sleeping well because of the obstructive apnea that was affecting my
sleep.  My mother let a lot of our wierd relatives live in our house.
They all smoked.  We had 6 cigarettes smoking while the sat and
watched television.  There was so much cigarette tar in the room that
it settled on the cieling and in the drapes.  Mom painted the cieling
every 6 months to cover the tar.  I was a victem of this second hand
cigarette smoke.  I had a lot of colds then.  As I got older, I was
having sinus and bronhcial problems.  The sinus problems would
manifest with severe drowsiness.  The drowsiness would happen in a
classroom.
Later in life, I totalled a car and I was fired from a job because I
became drowsy.  All again due to this "sinus" problem.
Fred - 13 Mar 2008 15:16 GMT
> Someone on this NG mentioned the "foggy" feeling that many sinus
> sufferes suffer.  I started noticing some problems early in my life.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Later in life, I totalled a car and I was fired from a job because I
> became drowsy.  All again due to this "sinus" problem.

In my mothers last year of her life, I started talking to her about my
health problems.  She told me that my grandfather used to doze off in
class when he was an apprentice.  This was around 1905.  The teacher
would come up behind him and box his ears.  My mother did the same
thing.  She would sit at the table and cup her head in her hands
because she was drowsy.  Grandpa used to come up behind her and box
her ears.  I used to sit in certain classes with my head cupped in my
hands and was drowsy.  I was sometimes punished but I did not get my
ears boxed.  I actually traced this dosorder back over 100 years.
Moms conversation convinced me that there is a genetic component to
this sinus disorder.  Mom died last year in Januaray.
Steven L. - 13 Mar 2008 17:13 GMT
> Someone on this NG mentioned the "foggy" feeling that many sinus
> sufferes suffer.  I started noticing some problems early in my life.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> manifest with severe drowsiness.  The drowsiness would happen in a
> classroom.

Yes, my mom was a heavy chain smoker too. And yes, as a child, I
suffered from croup, bronchitis, frequent colds, the whole nine yards.

Back then, the connection between smoking and cancer wasn't even known
yet.  Our own family doctor smoked cigarettes even when he was examining
patients:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyhvHB62ph8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCMzjJjuxQI

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neil0502@yahoo.com - 13 Mar 2008 17:20 GMT
> Yes, my mom was a heavy chain smoker too. And yes, as a child, I
> suffered from croup, bronchitis, frequent colds, the whole nine yards.
>
> Back then, the connection between smoking and cancer wasn't even known
> yet.  Our own family doctor smoked cigarettes even when he was examining
> patients:

My dad was good for a couple of packs of Lucky Strikes (non-filtered)
a day for the entirety of my brothers' and my youth.

Thankfully, because it was the upper Midwest, we had all the windows
closed, including in the car, for half the year while the heavy
smoking ... just kept on coming.

One sib and I have battled sinus issues our whole lives -- me much
worse than he.  DAD, himself, was a nose spray addict.
Fred - 13 Mar 2008 18:14 GMT
On Mar 13, 9:20 am, neil0...@yahoo.com wrote:

> > Yes, my mom was a heavy chain smoker too. And yes, as a child, I
> > suffered from croup, bronchitis, frequent colds, the whole nine yards.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> One sib and I have battled sinus issues our whole lives -- me much
> worse than he.  DAD, himself, was a nose spray addict.

I have seen nose spray addicts - they generally have a nicotine habbit
also.  Their smoking habit pollutes their sinuses and then they use
nose spray to try to open them - a continuous cycle.  I use one spray
of Afrin in the clogged nostril.  This is good for a day or sometimes
I don't have to use for a week or more.  Afrin is a great way to open
a nostril.
My mother let a bunch of her Nazi chain smoking relatives in to our
house when I was age 7.  6 chain smokers in all in a small living
room.  We lived in upstate new york so the windows were closed there
also.  I can't believe the time I lost because of my drowsiness.  I
could have died in one car accident.
Lots of life disruptions.
As for my dad, he was addicted to his bronchial dialator.  This was
after he screwed up his lungs with cigarettes.
This is not nearly as severe as a mother who screws up her child with
Fetal Alcohol Syndrome or addict the child in the womb with crystal
meth, heroine, or coccaine.  More women are taking responsibility for
their bodies now and not screwing up their fetuses.  Unfortunatly,
there are still a lot of children who don't have a chance from the
time they are in the womb.
Fred
Michael - 13 Mar 2008 20:38 GMT
> On Mar 13, 9:20 am, neil0...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
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> time they are in the womb.
> Fred

" ... there is a genetic component to this sinus disorder."

Hopkins Researchers Uncover Sinus Infection-CF Gene Link
ScienceDaily (Oct. 11, 2000)

... "In a study published in the current edition of The Journal of the
American Medical Association, the researchers found that 7 percent of
147 patients who recently visited Hopkins because of repeated bouts of
sinusitis carried a copy of the mutated gene responsible for CF,
called CFTR. The scientists predict that risk of chronic sinusitis
will likely double if you're a CF gene carrier.

"We want to be clear that these patients don't have cystic fibrosis,"
says geneticist Garry R. Cutting, M.D., of the research team. Cystic
fibrosis results from a double dose of the mutant CFTR gene-- both
parents must contribute a copy of this recessive gene for CF to
result. "But we've long wondered if having just one mutant CFTR gene
has any health effects," says Cutting. ...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/10/001009104808.htm

Study Lays Down Genetic Basis for Sinus Disease and Nasal Polyps
By David March Johns Hopkins Medicine
The JHU Gazette, November 8, 2004, Vol. 34 No. 11

In a three-year analysis of more than 10,500 genes, one-third of the
human genome, researchers at Johns Hopkins have found a starting point
to establishing the genetic basis for sinus disease and the growth of
nasal polyps, illnesses not well understood despite their prevalence
The findings, published Oct. 8 in the Journal of Allergy and Clinical
Immunology online, could lead to development of targeted gene
therapies or other treatments to control these conditions.

"This was a fishing expedition of sorts for sinusitis research, and a
nontraditional approach from a scientific standpoint," said study lead
author and otolaryngologist Jean Kim, assistant professor in the
School of Medicine. "The result was a host of very interesting leads
as to which genes may play a role in controlling this illness and how
we might prevent it in the future. ...

.... Of the genes studied, the researchers found that 192 were up-
regulated, or present in increased amounts, while another 156 were
down-regulated, or present in decreased amounts in the diseased tissue
samples. In the diseased tissue, a gene was determined to be "up" if
there was at least a twofold increase in its amount in samples tested,
and a gene was "down" if it had at least a 50 percent decrease in
amount.

The researchers then narrowed their initial focus to the top-four "up"
genes and the most common "down" gene to see if any proteins, as the
products of genes, were also present in significantly larger or
smaller amounts than normal. Changes in proteins and genes can be
clues to a genetic basis or origin of a disease. This may subsequently
lead to the development of new therapy for a condition (by controlling
the actions of the protein).

Three of the four "up" genes, including two proteins known to have
antibacterial activity, had their increased amounts confirmed by
specific mRNA and protein analysis. Actual increases in the amounts of
the fourth gene could not be validated.

Further analysis confirmed that one particular protein, called CC10,
was present in severely depleted quantities as the single most down-
regulated gene. CC10 is a protein, found primarily in the airways of
the lung, among other organs. This protein is thought to be a potent
anti-inflammatory molecule and one that plays an important role in the
immune response. While its precise biochemical and molecular functions
are unknown, CC10 is used as a treatment for underdeveloped lungs in
premature babies, where it suppresses inflammation.

"We were particularly surprised and excited to find low levels of this
protein CC10," said senior author Bruce Bochner, professor of medicine
and director of Hopkins' Division of Allergy and Clinical Immunology.
"This protein is usually increased by steroid therapy, yet it was
extremely low in all of our study subjects despite their use of
steroid sprays into the nose. So, it raises the possibility of one day
treating these defects with a nasal spray that is specific to raising
levels of CC10."

Kim said, "This study lays the initial groundwork for additional
studies on what has been up until now a poorly understood and
confounding illness. We now have many lead candidate genes which may
play a role in causing sinus disease. These studies may lead to new
treatments for patients with chronic rhinosinusitis and nasal polyps."
http://www.jhu.edu/~gazette/2004/08nov04/08polyps.html

Congested Sinuses Linked to 'Ghost' Parasites, Immune Response
By David March, Johns Hopkins Medicine
The JHU Gazette, September 11, 2006, Vol. 36 No. 2

"Although it's unclear why it's so, scientists at Johns Hopkins have
linked a gene that allows for the chemical breakdown of the tough,
protective casing that houses insects and worms to the severe
congestion and polyp formation typical of chronic sinusitis.

A team of Johns Hopkins sinus experts has found that the gene for the
enzyme, acidic mammalian chitinase, known as AMCase, is up to 250
times more active in people with severe sinus inflammation that
persists even after surgery when compared to patients in whom surgery
is successful. Sinus surgery is usually the treatment of last resort
for those who do not respond to drug therapy, but nearly one in 10 of
those treated see symptoms return within weeks or months after surgery
fails to keep open the nasal passages, scientists say. ...

... The Johns Hopkins report, published in the July issue of the
American Journal of Rhinology, is believed to be the first to identify
the enzyme's presence in the nose and confirm its link to sinusitis.

When researchers initially compared all the nasal tissue samples,
they found that half had the gene for AMCase turned on, or expressed,
to make the chitinase protein. During follow-up, they found that the
10 patients who had their polyps return had exceedingly higher levels
of AMCase expression than the other sinusitis patients and controls.
Gene expression of another inflammatory protein, called
interleukin-13, already known to be high in asthmatics, was also found
to be elevated in those with polyps, but the levels of interleukin-13
did not have the same predictive value as the elevated expression of
AMCase, researchers said. ..."
http://www.jhu.edu/~gazette/2006/11sep06/11sinus.html
truehawk - 14 Mar 2008 01:10 GMT
> > On Mar 13, 9:20 am, neil0...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
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> did not have the same predictive value as the elevated expression of
> AMCase, researchers said. ..."http://www.jhu.edu/~gazette/2006/11sep06/11sinus.html

The real fact is that one is really a composite creature, with 100,00
bacterial genes and 3000 human genes.
A lot of false correlations can happen while examining only a skewed
3% of the data.

http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20080301/bob10.asp

BTW.
NO ONE in my childhood household smoked.

I have pretty good reason to believe that the increase in sinusitis
has nothing to do with smoking and everything to do with confining
cattle in feed lots and feeding then corn and brewery waste, which
leads to heavy e-coli carriage in the cattle and in the dust from the
feedlots.

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