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Laura - 01 Jan 2008 16:48 GMT
is there a relationship to the common cold and tinnitus?
Steven L. - 01 Jan 2008 22:19 GMT
> is there a relationship to the common cold and tinnitus?

It's one way to get tinnitus, yes.  If the common cold spreads and
causes the Eustachian tube to become inflamed and/or blocked up.

In the past, I've often quoted my ENT's "Unified Field Theory of Upper
Respiratory Disease":  The Eustachian tube, the sinuses, the
nasopharynx, the oropharynx, the nostrils, and the larynx, are all
genetically pretty much identical tissue.  An infection in any one of
those can easily spread to any or all of the others.  Especially a viral
infection, which multiplies like hell.

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Murray Grossan - 04 Jan 2008 18:02 GMT
The uninvited e mails have pretty much destroyed this group as it has the
tinnitus news group and the options news group. You can't expect any new
reader to remain here when they see some of the uninvited entries. Which is
tragic because there are so many excellent FAQ here.

Let's find a monitored sinus group and all move their en mass.
Suggestions?
Susan - 04 Jan 2008 18:09 GMT
> The uninvited e mails have pretty much destroyed this group as it has the
> tinnitus news group and the options news group. You can't expect any new
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> Let's find a monitored sinus group and all move their en mass.
> Suggestions?

I disagree with you completely.  In fact, I don't even know what
"uninvited emails" you're talking about, since this is usenet, not an
email program and I use kill files to screen out garbage posts.

We've had a lot of useful discussions here in recent weeks.

Susan
Steven L. - 04 Jan 2008 23:35 GMT
> The uninvited e mails have pretty much destroyed this group as it has the
> tinnitus news group and the options news group. You can't expect any new
> reader to remain here when they see some of the uninvited entries. Which is
> tragic because there are so many excellent FAQ here.

It sounds like your ISP isn't filtering out the spam and troll posts as
well as my ISP does.
I haven't seen any spam posts lately.

You should complain to your ISP.

Failing that, there are many spam filter applications out there.

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Shirley ann - 05 Jan 2008 10:56 GMT
Doctor I agree with you that we need a monitor for our Group.

All my medical Support groups have just about vanished, and I am so
disappointed as they used to help me to cope with daily living and pain.

shirleyann
Steven L. - 05 Jan 2008 13:04 GMT
> Doctor I agree with you that we need a monitor for our Group.
>
> All my medical Support groups have just about vanished, and I am so
> disappointed as they used to help me to cope with daily living and pain.

If you're talking about the "MI5 Persecution" troll, the best way to
deal with him is just to ignore him.  He actually is known to be a
mental patient in Britain somewhere, who periodically freaks out and
thinks the MI5 is out to get him:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A164404

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Murray Grossan - 06 Jan 2008 06:48 GMT
On 1/5/08 5:04 AM, in article 13nv027ug6c115@corp.supernews.com, "Steven L."
<sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> Doctor I agree with you that we need a monitor for our Group.
>>
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> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A164404

Steve you are correct in what you say, but picture the novice that comes
here for the first time. Normally they would go elsewhere.
Steven L. - 06 Jan 2008 12:58 GMT
> On 1/5/08 5:04 AM, in article 13nv027ug6c115@corp.supernews.com, "Steven L."
> <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> Steve you are correct in what you say, but picture the novice that comes
> here for the first time. Normally they would go elsewhere.

How about you setting up a Forum on your own website, www.ent-consult.com?
I wouldn't mind going there.

(For example, check out the moderated Forum on http://www.ibsgroup.org/,
for the sufferers of Irritable Bowel Syndrome)

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neil0502@yahoo.com - 06 Jan 2008 18:27 GMT
> > On 1/5/08 5:04 AM, in article 13nv027ug6c...@corp.supernews.com, "Steven L."
> > <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> (For example, check out the moderated Forum onhttp://www.ibsgroup.org/,
> for the sufferers of Irritable Bowel Syndrome)

I'm going to presume that everybody understands the primary
limitations of a moderated group, right?

The most functional that I'm aware of is ... who's going to monitor
it.

Unless it's set up so that messages DO get through, and then a
moderator can delete those that meet (which??) certain criteria ...
then what you have is a bunch of stuff sitting on somebody's desk,
waiting for him/her to get to them.

Is somebody going to be 24/7 ... or even M-F, 9-5 available ... almost
every single day ... to keep posts from taking, say, more than a day
to hit the public access page?

What happens on weekends, holidays, vacations, or when the moderator
just gets too busy to moderate.

It's a big commitment.  I, for one, couldn't make that commitment.
Might be tough to find somebody who could.

Another issue is first-time posters.  If they don't get the immediate
feedback of seeing that post appear when they click "Send," then how
many of them are likely to just move on to something else?

I love the pro's of a moderated forum.  I'm concerned about the cons.

OhByTheWay, I was feeling pretty stuffy, and noticing pain above the
upper right side molars when walking.  I got medieval on it, invoking
the h202 + grapefruit seed extract + sea salt lavage, increased
Colostrum, zinc, vitamin c, and beta glucan AND increased Vitamin D
(5,000iu).

About four days later, I seem to be symptom free (better to say
"returned to baseline."  Most of us are /never/ "symptom free!)
jaygmo@webtv.net - 08 Jan 2008 12:13 GMT
I am new to this. Can someone tell me what the foul smelling discharge
from my nasals is. It started  midway into a sinus infection please
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neil0502@yahoo.com - 08 Jan 2008 23:01 GMT
On Jan 8, 4:13 am, jay...@webtv.net wrote:
> I am new to this. Can someone tell me what the foul smelling discharge
> from my nasals is. It started  midway into a sinus infection please
> reply

That's an infection.  They quite often smell pretty rank.  It could be
bacteria, retained stuff that's impacting your sinuses, or just
exudate from your "diseased" sinuses.

Prolly a few other things, too, but ... that's what comes to mind.
Captain_Nemo@example.com - 06 Jan 2008 19:21 GMT
> The uninvited e mails have pretty much destroyed this group as it has the
> tinnitus news group and the options news group. You can't expect any new
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Let's find a monitored sinus group and all move their en mass.
> Suggestions?

Dr. -

Someone somewhere owns the root server that hosts alt.support.sinusitis.  
I always assumed that was you.

If not, we could approach whoever it is and ask him/her to host
alt.support.sinusitis.moderated.  There is a process to charter new
usenet groups involving petitioning etc, and there are good and bad
things about that.  The very bad thing is that someone or ones have to
do the moderating, and when no one does it, nothing gets added.

This is as opposed to unmoderated groups, where software does the
bookkeeping.

Who owns a.s.s?

...best, Capt N.

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neil0502@yahoo.com - 06 Jan 2008 19:56 GMT
On Jan 6, 11:21 am, Captain_N...@example.com wrote:

> Who owns a.s.s?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
errfrsdaf - 07 Jan 2008 02:39 GMT
> The uninvited e mails have pretty much destroyed this group as it has the
> tinnitus news group and the options news group. You can't expect any new
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Let's find a monitored sinus group and all move their en mass.
> Suggestions?

If you're talking about a moderated newsgroup then someone obviously has
to take on the task of moderation.  Moderated newsgroups can be created
by posting in news.groups for a "sci" group or alt.config for an "alt"
group.  It's not easy to get a group created.

If your talking about a google group I advise against it since it
is not propagated through usenet.

If you're talking about a forum then I'm totally against it.  Active
forums are great for generating revenue for the owner.  They are not
great for the end user.  The knowledge goes from being in the public
domain to being owned by an individual.  Then if the individual closes
the forum for any reason the information is lost.  Google archives this
newsgroup and it is unlikely they will ever stop.  I don't want to see
all the a.s.s information lost.

I'm not moving from a.s.s and it won't go away no matter who leaves
and new people will always find it so...  I think you all should stay
put.

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Ghamph - 02 Jan 2008 20:17 GMT
> is there a relationship to the common cold and tinnitus?

My guess is, yes.  Wherever a virus strikes, could be a battlefield.
I have both tinnitus and sinusitis.
I think that it is my diminished immune system that allows ordinary issues
to become prominent.

The real culprit is hcv-1b virus that I have had for 25-30 yrs. or so.

There are new treatments in the pipeline within a couple of years, bringing
a more effective cure.

Such is life.
Jamffer
Laura - 26 Jan 2008 15:53 GMT
If everyone agrees that there is a relationship between a cold and
tinnitus, then why would tinnitus remain after the cold has passed? I
ask this because I know tinnitus can be a temporary condition with
weight change, but also has the possibility to be a lasting condition
based on nerve damage and hearing loss.

Laura

> is there a relationship to the common cold and tinnitus?
Susan - 26 Jan 2008 16:46 GMT
> If everyone agrees that there is a relationship between a cold and
> tinnitus, then why would tinnitus remain after the cold has passed? I
> ask this because I know tinnitus can be a temporary condition with
> weight change, but also has the possibility to be a lasting condition
> based on nerve damage and hearing loss.

Tinnitus is also very strongly associated with hormonal fluctations,
including thyroid, adrenal hormones like sex hormones and cortisol,
chronic CNS infection, physical and chemical injuries.

I don't know what the cold is doing, but I used to have chronic snap,
crackle popping in my ears from eustachian tube fluid excess/blockage,
along with untreated, chronic Lyme disease.  Most women in perimenopause
also experience tinnitus, along with those with pituitary/adrenal disorders.

Ketogenic dieting with very low carb and very low calorie has been found
to treat tinnitus effectively in one study.

Susan
Steven L. - 26 Jan 2008 19:58 GMT
> If everyone agrees that there is a relationship between a cold and
> tinnitus, then why would tinnitus remain after the cold has passed?

How long ago did the cold pass?  You could still have lingering
inflammation.  Your upper respiratory system will continue to have
greater than normal secretions for a few weeks at least; that's why a
post nasal drip can linger even after the cold is gone.

If the tinnitus was due to taking some drug (such as some antibiotics),
the otic damage from such drugs can be cumulative.  And eventually chronic.

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