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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Sinusitis / September 2007Grossan
Does anyone know of any good substitutes for the HydroPulse? Mine is doing a good enough job any more. Thanks > Does anyone know of any good substitutes for the HydroPulse? Mine is doing a > good enough job any more. Thanks You can buy an attachment to use with a WaterPik, or buy one of these units (though I haven't read any reviews here) at ethicare.com, or use a neti pot or a NeilMed bottle, the latter of which just worked great for me on my vacation. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Susan I have heard there is an automatic handheld device that can offer a spray and an effective suction if needed all operated by one switch. It is like a Sonicare for the nose. Apparently there is buzz about it in the kid world, and some sinusitis experts think it will replace the out dated versions of Neti-Pots and squirt bottles. Not sure what I think. I do not mind the Neti. > Does anyone know of any good substitutes for the HydroPulse? Mine is > doing a good enough job any more. Thanks I bought a personal waterpik and cut the jet back a little to widen the opening, and then simply put the hydropulse rubber tip on the waterpik jet.  SignatureTerry =========================================================== Terry Raymond Crafted Smalltalk 80 Lazywood Ln. Tiverton, RI 02878 (401) 624-4517 traymond at craftedsmalltalk nospam dot com <http://www.craftedsmalltalk.com> =========================================================== > I bought a personal waterpik and cut the jet back a little > to widen the opening, and then simply put the hydropulse > rubber tip on the waterpik jet. Great idea. I know lots of folks with very old, still functional Waterpiks. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Susan Waterpiks use rubber grommets inside. When they get old enough these rubber grommets self destruct. You might see some bits of black grommet in the water stream before the grommet finally fails or you might not. Personally I do not want any old rubber grommet particles way up in my sinuses. AW > Waterpiks use rubber grommets inside. When they get old enough these rubber > grommets self destruct. You might see some bits of black grommet in the > water stream before the grommet finally fails or you might not. Personally I > do not want any old rubber grommet particles way up in my sinuses. AW Are they replaceable? Bad idea if they're not, kind of like the narrow Grossan tubing that can't be replaced. Frankly, I just got back from a week on vacation using my NeilMed bottle, and it was easier, less maintenance and did a better job than my Grossan, which has been unreliable and probably near death after only two years or so despite scrupulous maintenance. If I thought I needed an irrigation appliance, I'd try those at ethicare.com, but for now, I'll use the squeeze bottle or the Grossan til it finally bites the dust. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Susan No the waterpik grommets are not replaceable. I noticed little black particles shooting out of my waterpik and thought the reservoir was dirty. About three seconds later the grommet self destructed completely and made a big mess. Fortunately I was using the waterpik on my teeth and not my sinuses. The hose on a waterpik is not detachable or cleanable either. In an ideal world the hose on both the Hydropulse and Waterpik would be detachable for cleaning but I'm sure both were designed to be as idiot proof as possible. I've started cleaning my hydropulse with a couple ounces of vinegar after each use and leaving the tubing full of vinegar. I rinse my hydropulse before and after each use with water anyways and with the vinegar inside I worry less about pathogens living in the tubing. They would have to be tough little boogers to live in such an acidic environment. Vinegar is less than 2 bucks a gallon. While doing this you do have to always remember to not get in too big of a hurry. Take my word for it that vinegar will cut the mucus right out of your nose - while it burns the living crap out of your sinuses. I now keep a post-it note on top to remind me to rinse the vinegar completely out. AW > No the waterpik grommets are not replaceable. I noticed little black > particles shooting out of my waterpik and thought the reservoir was dirty. > About three seconds later the grommet self destructed completely and made a > big mess. Fortunately I was using the waterpik on my teeth and not my > sinuses. YECH. How old was it? > The hose on a waterpik is not detachable or cleanable either. In an ideal > world the hose on both the Hydropulse and Waterpik would be detachable for > cleaning but I'm sure both were designed to be as idiot proof as possible. > I've started cleaning my hydropulse with a couple ounces of vinegar after > each use and leaving the tubing full of vinegar. Me, too. I rinse my hydropulse > before and after each use with water anyways and with the vinegar inside I > worry less about pathogens living in the tubing. They would have to be tough > little boogers to live in such an acidic environment. Vinegar is less than 2 > bucks a gallon. Me, too, with peroxide at times. > While doing this you do have to always remember to not get in too big of a > hurry. Take my word for it that vinegar will cut the mucus right out of your > nose - while it burns the living crap out of your sinuses. I now keep a > post-it note on top to remind me to rinse the vinegar completely out. Yeah, something you're not likely to forget TWICE. :-) Susan > Waterpiks use rubber grommets inside. When they get old enough these > rubber grommets self destruct. You might see some bits of black > grommet in the water stream before the grommet finally fails or you > might not. Personally I do not want any old rubber grommet particles > way up in my sinuses. AW Well, considering the cost, ~$45, one could simply replace the waterpik every year. SignatureTerry =========================================================== Terry Raymond Crafted Smalltalk 80 Lazywood Ln. Tiverton, RI 02878 (401) 624-4517 traymond at craftedsmalltalk nospam dot com <http://www.craftedsmalltalk.com> =========================================================== > Waterpiks use rubber grommets inside. When they get old enough these > rubber grommets self destruct. You might see some bits of black grommet in > the water stream before the grommet finally fails or you might not. > Personally I do not want any old rubber grommet particles way up in my > sinuses. AW I have used a Waterpik for irrigation for decades, and never saw rubber particles in the solution. > I bought a personal waterpik and cut the jet back a little > to widen the opening, and then simply put the hydropulse > rubber tip on the waterpik jet. The Grossan tips used to fit the Waterpik, and also fit the Interplak irrigator? Do they not now, and only fit the Hydropulse? In any case, Waterpik makes their own sinus tips now-- much cheaper, work good, available in many local drug stores. >> I bought a personal waterpik and cut the jet back a little >> to widen the opening, and then simply put the hydropulse >> rubber tip on the waterpik jet. > > The Grossan tips used to fit the Waterpik, and also fit the Interplak > irrigator? Do they not now, and only fit the Hydropulse? I do not mean the entire removable tip. I mean just the rubber-like adaptor that you place against your nose. > In any case, Waterpik makes their own sinus tips now-- much cheaper, > work good, available in many local drug stores. SignatureTerry =========================================================== Terry Raymond Crafted Smalltalk 80 Lazywood Ln. Tiverton, RI 02878 (401) 624-4517 traymond at craftedsmalltalk nospam dot com <http://www.craftedsmalltalk.com> =========================================================== I used the Grossan for about a year and irrigation-wise, it worked great. Unfortunately, the on-off button malfunctioned about 6 months in and the motor died just after a year. I switched to the Neilmed bottle and it's just easier overall. Sure the bottle doesn't have a the pulsing water thingy, but it does the job of cleaning out the nasal passages perfectly well. The best 3-4 months I've had sinus- wise has been while using the bottle. The bottles are much cheaper, much easier to clean and they take up a lot less space in the bathroom. This isn't to knock the effectiveness of the Grossan, if money wasn't an issue and the machine was self- cleaning, I'd be using the Grossan. > I used the Grossan for about a year and irrigation-wise, it worked > great. Unfortunately, the on-off button malfunctioned about 6 months > in and the motor died just after a year. My motor has periodically died and come back to life. Today it was half alive, underpowered. A few weeks ago, the switch went, then the machine suddenly came on about 12 hours later, on its own. It's just not sturdy nor reliable, from my experience. I switched to the Neilmed > bottle and it's just easier overall. Sure the bottle doesn't have a > the pulsing water thingy, but it does the job of cleaning out the > nasal passages perfectly well. The best 3-4 months I've had sinus- > wise has been while using the bottle. In the past two weeks, after a cold, I've discovered that the NeilMed bottle is not only easier, I flushed out much more of the stuff I won't describe in detail with it. > The bottles are much cheaper, much easier to clean and they take up a > lot less space in the bathroom. This isn't to knock the effectiveness > of the Grossan, if money wasn't an issue and the machine was self- > cleaning, I'd be using the Grossan. And in luggage. I won't be replacing my Grossan irrigator when it dies. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Susan Sounds like you're going through exactly what I went through last year. The motor would start and stop and start and stop...and finally died. I bought the Neilmed b/c I couldn't spring another $100 for the Grossan. Haven't looked back since. It was easy to buy a 2nd bottle for travel. With the cost of a few dollars, I plan on replacing the bottles on a yearly basis. The one I have had for a year now is in fine shape...but I'll replace it soon just to be on the safe side. x-no-archive; yes > Sounds like you're going through exactly what I went through last > year. The motor would start and stop and start and stop...and finally [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > bottles on a yearly basis. The one I have had for a year now is in > fine shape...but I'll replace it soon just to be on the safe side. One shouldn't *have* to replace a $100 appliance after a year or two! All the other small appliances in my house that cost that much have been around and functioned reliably for many years. My Grossan has played on/off for years, but this was the first time it didn't turn on til many hours later; kind of spooky and I'm glad I was home to hear it! Susan > Does anyone know of any good substitutes for the HydroPulse? Mine is doing > a good enough job any more. Thanks There's also the Conair Interplak irrigation device--cheaper than a Waterpik--has a rotary dial pressure control on the body of the machine (like the Hydropulse), rather than the handle pressure switch that the Waterpik has.
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