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ellen - 28 Aug 2007 20:15 GMT
ok folks.  i'm getting ready to cancel a trip that i have scheduled in
about a week, but i thought i'd check in anyway in case there was any
slim hope....

my sinuses slammed shut on me this weekend & i just haven't been able
to get them open.  i started taking azithromycin yesterday, but the
pressure & congestion is bad, the drainage (when i'm able to get some
going) is thick but not yet discolored.  & i do feel like hell.

i've never tried to fly while in this condition before, but it doesn't
take a genius to figure out that it's not advisable.  i guess my
question is this - if i note improvement in the next day or so, do i
even attempt it?   i need to make a decision soon because of the
notification period for the lodging.

ellen
Andries - 30 Aug 2007 11:27 GMT
Hi Ellen,

I am very sorry to hear that your sinuses slammed shut before a flying trip!

Personally, i had a very bad expierence with flying and descending, where
the pressure could not get into my sinusus and i had terrible vacuum pains.
I dont know how to describe this pain, but i dont wish for anybody to feel
this. It really scared me.

From that time on, i only fly when i am not congested and i use Otrivin
before and during the flight (it is with xylometazoline) to keep everything
open. This has helped for me so far.

But as you say, i can imagine the fear for flying when congested. I would
think twice before getting in an airplane in that condition...

Andries

> ok folks.  i'm getting ready to cancel a trip that i have scheduled in
> about a week, but i thought i'd check in anyway in case there was any
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> ellen
ellen - 30 Aug 2007 14:18 GMT
> Hi Ellen,
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hi andries,

yeah, i thought twice & then deleted the post & cancelled all my
reservations.  i didn't want my vacation to turn into some type of
suicide mission.  thanks for sharing your experience (which sounded
horrible & i'm glad it hasn't happened again) & advice.

ellen
Andries - 14 Sep 2007 20:14 GMT
Hi Ellen,

I am in the same doubt right now unfortanly.

I have a flight planned on sunday, because i have to go for my work for a
week to Munich, Germany. So i have to fly 1.5 hours from Amsterdam Schiphol
Airport to Munich.
But, since yesterday evening i got a cold! My nose is half blocked and
dripping..:(

So, i am in real doubt now if i still will fly on sunday, or drive to Munich
by car. It's a 8/9 hour drive, but then i don't have the pressure changes
which i am afraid of. Unfortanly the ticket is not refundable, so if i
decide to go by car we loose that money.

I hope something good happens and my cold goes away before sunday noon.....

Have a nice weekend!

Andries

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Susan - 14 Sep 2007 21:07 GMT
> Hi Ellen,
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> I hope something good happens and my cold goes away before sunday noon.....

Best thing I can offer is to take a decongestant or use an Afrin like
spray and suck on the strongest menthol drops you can find, too.  Put
Bactroban up your nose before getting on the plane, too.

Really helped me fly home with a cold and infection recently.

Susan
Neil Brooks - 14 Sep 2007 21:58 GMT
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That's most of what I did the last time I flew across the Atlantic. In
addition, I drank a ton of herbal tea, AND bought one of those US$79
"personal air purifier" things that you wear like a necklace.

I did just fine.  I can't say WHY I did just fine, but ... I did!
ellen - 15 Sep 2007 14:22 GMT
> Hi Ellen,
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well, andries, good luck.  everyone has given you good advice.  i've
had success as well with the oral & nasal decongestant prior to flight
& the hydration angle.  as noted, i did cancel my flight because it
wasn't imperative that i be in the canadian rockies (my soul said
otherwise).  turns out i was sick the whole time anyway & flying would
have definitely made it worse.  hope that won't be the case for you.

best,
ellen
Johnny1000@webtv.net - 15 Sep 2007 00:24 GMT
andries@inn.nl (Andries) wrote:

>Hi Ellen,
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> describe this pain, but i don't wish for anybody
> to feel this. It really scared me.

You don't have to be flying to experience such discomfort.  ....A few
years back, I was driving from Reno, Nevada to California.  Now, Reno is
situated at 4500 feet, so when I started to descend into the lower
regions of the Sacramento valley, I was hit with  blinding pain
emanating from my frontals.  ...My eyes started watering so bad that I
had to pull off the highway.  I was tempted to turn back around, but
after about 5 minutes the symptoms started to ease up.  

This was the same awful pain I experienced when I had to dive 6' down to
fix a problem in the main drain of my swimming pool. ...By the 3rd time
down, the pain was so unbearable, I couldn't stay down for more than a
few seconds.    ...Jon
Andries - 15 Sep 2007 10:32 GMT
Hi John,

I know, bin there too.

The last time is was on the west coast on holiday, i drove on the i10 west
from flagstaff towards palm springs.
On that road, you have steep descends, where your really go down. On one of
those places, i also got the pains in my forehead so bad, i had to pull of
the road to the side and stop. Indeed after a few minutes the pain got less
(i actually heard a "tssspp"  sound), like a opening occured and the air
could get into the sinuses. Then the pain went away. The last part of that
descend i drove very slowly....

Problem is, in a airplane which is descending you cannot stop or pull over,
so when the pain hits you, there's nothing you can do but hope it will go
away and not get worse.
I already have trouble breathing normally now, so i think i will not take
the change and go by car.
I always use Otrivin when flying, which contains Xylometazoline, which works
very well and opens my nose up. But still, the question then remains: Are
the openings to the sinuses open or not....it stay's a gamble.

Andries

>>Hi Ellen,
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> down, the pain was so unbearable, I couldn't stay down for more than a
> few seconds.    ...Jon
Terry Raymond - 15 Sep 2007 13:39 GMT
> Hi John,
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> Andries

In my experience Otrivin is pretty much like Afrin. But because
the sprays are topical and don't reach everywhere I find that
a couple of pseudoephedrine pills work better for opening the
sinuses. The downside is that I don't sleep well if I take
pseudoephedrine.

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