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Xylitol and Sinusitis

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geoffgreen@sympatico.ca - 28 Jul 2007 03:40 GMT
Here is a message I posted about a year ago.  Since I began the "sinus
steeping" procedure I have not had any sinus problems; this from a
former chronic sinus sufferer!  As I wrote, I hope this procedure
helps others.  For xylitol references see the papers I included last
year.  Geoff

I would like to relate my experience with xylitol because I hope it
can
help others in this group who suffer from sinusitis.
I have had 2 sinus operations and initially found them to be of some
benefit, because I did get fewer sinus infections.  Last March I got
a
sinus infection.  I tried biaxin, which had always worked in the
past,
and avelox.  Both had no effect.  The third antibiotic, ketek was
effective and the infection cleared.  In May, I got another sinus
infection and my doctor suggested tetracycline, which I tried but to
no
effect.  Once again, I tried ketek which now had no effect.  Over the
years I have used all the standard antibiotics and my sinus flora are
resistent to all of them.  Back in 2003, I started using nasal
irrigation with isotonic saline which seemed to reduce the number of
infections but not to zero.  In May of this year when I realized that
antibiotics would be of no benefit to treat my sinus infections, I
came
across the xylitol threads on this group and decided to try it.  Here
is my personal xylitol protocol:
I use a  xylitol solution comprising of approximately 45 ml of
xylitol in
approximately 250-300 ml of water.  I boil the solution to sterilize
it.  When I
'steep'  with this solution, I lie down flat and gently dribble the
solution into each nostril with a squeeze bottle.  I keep the solution
in my sinuses for about one minute and then blow my nose. What is
surprising
is the amount of mucus that comes out  using this xylitol mixture.  I
have tried this procedure using the saline and very little comes out.
The xylitol seems to really loosen the mucus.  I always empty my
sinuses into a clear plastic container because it  gives me a rough
idea of how much mucus is coming out because the clear container
makes
it very visible.  This also allows me to make day to day comparisons.
I do this modification of irrigation,  It seems to have greatly
improved my symptoms,
which are extreme fatigue and some stuffiness.  I have been doing the
sinus steeping  every hour or two for the last 10 days.  Even when I
get up in the middle of the night, I do it!  The result is that I
have
been slowly feeling better day by day and the amount of mucus has
been
decreasing.  Sometimes I breathe steam and then do the seeping
procedure and the steaming seems to help even more.  Let me know your
experiences  with this.  I felt that I was at the end of the line
knowing that all conventional antibiotics were ineffective while in
the
middle of a full-blown sinus infection.  I hope this procedure
benefits
others, Geoff
truehawk - 28 Jul 2007 05:12 GMT
On Jul 27, 10:40 pm, geoffgr...@sympatico.ca wrote:
> Here is a message I posted about a year ago.  Since I began the "sinus
> steeping" procedure I have not had any sinus problems; this from a
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> benefits
>  others, Geoff

Geoff:
I am really happy that xylitol has worked so well for you.
I have about two pounds of the stuff, which I use along with mannose
in irrigation solutions from time to time.
You have inspired me to try it at a higher concentration.

Elizabeth
flashpoint46@yahoo.com - 28 Jul 2007 21:39 GMT
Xylitol helped loosen the mucus for many years. My congestion went
away when I got rid of what was causing it.
Stan
ellen - 28 Jul 2007 22:22 GMT
On Jul 28, 4:39 pm, "flashpoin...@yahoo.com" <flashpoin...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Xylitol helped loosen the mucus for many years. My congestion went
> away when I got rid of what was causing it.
> Stan

i've never tried this, but it sounds like many people have & have been
happy with the results.  since my entire being seems to be
hypersensitive, i'm just wondering if anyone has experienced any bad
reactions or has advice for proceeding given my sensitive
proclivities?

ellen
Murray Grossan - 28 Jul 2007 22:29 GMT
On 7/28/07 2:22 PM, in article
1185657735.261795.193910@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com, "ellen"
<epdpster@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 28, 4:39 pm, "flashpoin...@yahoo.com" <flashpoin...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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>
> ellen

Two teaspoons of Xylitol to 500 cc makes a 1% solution
Four teaspoons to         500 cc makes a 2% solution  and so on.
truehawk - 29 Jul 2007 21:27 GMT
> On 7/28/07 2:22 PM, in article
> 1185657735.261795.193...@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com, "ellen"
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> Two teaspoons of Xylitol to 500 cc makes a 1% solution
> Four teaspoons to         500 cc makes a 2% solution  and so on.

Ellen;
It is a sugar that the bugs attach to instead of the surface of your
cells. It is non-toxic and won't do you any harm by itself.
It does not poison the bugs, but can make them the mat detach and make
them move house.
Like anything else that disturbs what is in your sinuses it is likely
to burn and hurt as first.
The mucus of a CS sufferer is likely to be about 8% protein, as
opposed to salavia and normal mucus
which is about 2%. CS mucus swells up as it comes off, so the first
thing that is going to happen is that you will feel
MORE congested. If you want to get rid of it you just have to keep
rinsing it out. When the goo is gone, you are likely going to have a
sore spot where it pulled off that will heal in a couple of days, and
has to be kept washed off for at least 3 weeks. I have reclaimed a
good bit of my sinuses, and can tell you that breathing through them
at this stages hurts but can be handled with Advil.

One problem that I have had with Xylitol steeping in the past is
moving a wad of goo from my sinuses into my eshtation tube where it
took up residence for a while. (Bleeding from the ear anyone?)
Now I always dissolve it with pepcid tablet, a tablespoon of yellow
mustard and a five or six of pieces of licorice to discourage the
surface of what detaches from gloming on and lodgeing somewhere else
on the way out.
ellen - 30 Jul 2007 18:59 GMT
> > On 7/28/07 2:22 PM, in article
> > 1185657735.261795.193...@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com, "ellen"
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> surface of what detaches from gloming on and lodgeing somewhere else
> on the way out.

thanks to you both for the responses.  my only concern with anything
that i irrigate with is the intensity & longevity of my nasal
inflammatory response.  it sure doesn't take much to start blocking
off the whole air flow process & starting a great infection surge.
i'll keep you posted if/when i try this.

ellen
truehawk - 01 Aug 2007 23:26 GMT
> > > On 7/28/07 2:22 PM, in article
> > > 1185657735.261795.193...@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com, "ellen"
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>
> ellen

I am presently snorting xyitol and having good results.
I am so pleased that geoff spurred me to try it at a higher
concentration, and you can't get any higher than just
snorting it into the sinuses and letting diffusion drive it into the
mat.
I have been clear but still weeping heavy clear mucus for about a
year.
Now with with the xyitol and pepcid, 5 dime-size patches, 4 green and
one white with red dots, have fallen out in the last two days.
And the mucus production has fallen considerably.
rocketsman@talktalk.net - 04 Aug 2007 17:34 GMT
> > > > On 7/28/07 2:22 PM, in article
> > > > 1185657735.261795.193...@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com, "ellen"
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>
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Geoff can you please confirm the weight of dry Xylitol powder you use
per 250mls water. You say 45mls in your post but this is a liquid
measurement. Many thanks
Bob West - 04 Aug 2007 17:45 GMT
Check Murry Grossan's post above for dry measurement.
 
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