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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Sinusitis / June 2007air filtration
i know that i'm posting alot, which i hope is ok protocol. but you guys haven't steered me wrong yet, so as i reexamine my knowledge base & approach to this problem i have yet another question that springs from elizabeth's response about air filters. i used an hepa air filter system some years ago & didn't find it to be of great help. would love to know others' experiences with air filtration & what types of systems have worked the best. thanks, ellen > i know that i'm posting alot, which i hope is ok protocol. but you > guys haven't steered me wrong yet, so as i reexamine my knowledge base [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > of great help. would love to know others' experiences with air > filtration & what types of systems have worked the best. I have a big honking air cleaner in my bedroom, and it's very useful as an adjunct, but no substitute at all for scrupulous cleaning and dust mite barriers. It's a useful adjunct. If I were fortunate enough to have forced air heat, I'd use Filtrete in all my duct work. Susan >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Susan I use a Filtrete for my central air and man, does it get dirty in a hurry. Doesn't matter if it's a 1000 rating or a 1500 rating ($10-15 at Target), I have to replace it every month. I used to use an Oreck air cleaner, and although it's great for getting rid of pet odors, it's annoying to hear it pop, which it will sometimes do on occasion. I recall hearing from an AC guy once not to buy the type of electrostatic air filters that are washable/reusable because of the potential mold factor from it being damp from cleaning. So I didn't. I think what helps in my house is that we have ceramic tile in the living room, so most of the cat and dog hair and other stuff gets swept away. Rick > I use a Filtrete for my central air and man, does it get dirty in a > hurry. Doesn't matter if it's a 1000 rating or a 1500 rating ($10-15 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > getting rid of pet odors, it's annoying to hear it pop, which it will > sometimes do on occasion. My sister had that kind of system and the noise was annoying. > I recall hearing from an AC guy once not to buy the type of > electrostatic air filters that are washable/reusable because of the > potential mold factor from it being damp from cleaning. So I didn't. > I think what helps in my house is that we have ceramic tile in the > living room, so most of the cat and dog hair and other stuff gets > swept away. I have all wood floors and area rugs that we clean and mop under. My BlueAir cleaner is HEPA and while it has an electrostatic component, it's been tested and does not discharge any ozone. What helps me is bleaching every inch of my master bath, top to bottom, weekly, dust barriers on my mattress, pillows and foundation and using a high quality HEPA filtered vaccuum cleaner and having things dusted thoroughly often. Tops of doorways, backs of pictures and furniture, window blinds, the works. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Susan been doing the allergen control strategies for awhile but it is time to brush up on my cleaning discipline. re: portable air filtration units: i was concerned about systems that discharged ozone or created ion imbalances & i was just curious to see if people were actually finding the hepa filtration to be helpful. my rooms are pretty small & i don't have central air. i wonder if the smallest portable blueair would be useful. any opinions? thanks, ellen > been doing the allergen control strategies for awhile but it is time > to brush up on my cleaning discipline. Cleaning IS the main allergen control strategy, sorry! :-) > re: portable air filtration units: i was concerned about systems that > discharged ozone or created ion imbalances & i was just curious to see > if people were actually finding the hepa filtration to be helpful. my > rooms are pretty small & i don't have central air. i wonder if the > smallest portable blueair would be useful. any opinions? Mine doesn't discharge ozone, but it does charge up the dust inside and keep it there. If I had it to do over again, I'd buy an Austin HealthMate. It's a great, hospital quality machine, and the BlueAir filter replacement costs are much, much higher than an Austin. BTW, even with scrupulous cleaning, dusting often, and daily swipes around the room with a vacuum, my BlueAir gets coated with dust on all the intake areas. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Susan hi susan, guess we're tossing messages back & forth. thank for the advice. you are right, of course, everything else pales in comparison to keeping the home clean. i just tanked during that nasty infection & now really need to do catch up. ellen > hi susan, > > guess we're tossing messages back & forth. thank for the advice. you > are right, of course, everything else pales in comparison to keeping > the home clean. i just tanked during that nasty infection & now > really need to do catch up. I have other folks do the bulk of the cleaning, Ellen, I'm no hero. I do maintain it daily, though, or I get symptomatic. If you don't have a HEPA filted vacuum cleaner, I HIGHLY recommend it. Keeps down the dust level for weeks compared to unfiltered. I can stand behind mine while it's on with absolutely no dust discharge to make me ill, and dust is my big baddie. Susan Ellen, I use the Whirlpool HEPA filters: there was once a consumer's report on them: they're relatively inexpensive, but the prefilters and HEPA filters add up: they're in all of our bedrooms and livingroom.They're relatively quiet. No electrostatic element. I am interested in the forced air issue, as my daughter, who has sinusitis/asthma, is looking at an apartment with central air/heat-- but it reportedly it will take a fitrete filter--thanks for the information. I use a Kenmore progressive cannister vacuum: again, consumer's gave it high rating for low emissions, and buy expensive HEPA bags. We have rugs in only one room--and they're coming out soon. Judy > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Susan > Ellen, > I use the Whirlpool HEPA filters: there was once a consumer's report [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > > Susan judy, i'm not familiar with the whirlpool hepa filters but i'll check them out when i figure out what i'm going to do about all that. i've got a kenmore canister vacuum with a hepa bag, but i think that its their lowest end model & i'm guessing that i get a good dusting when i use it. so the windows are always open & i've got my mask on. the vacuum is also the same color as my very 1st bike. but that fact kind of depresses me. enjoy the rug toss; hope the wood floors don't need refinishing. ellen Ellen, the whole house could use refinishing on the floors, but short of moving out, I've never figured out how to do it. Our old shepherd used to omit the final steps as she dove down the stairs, and her toenails did a number on the floors. Our current little mutt: shepherd mom/ Aussie dad is easy on floors, but inserts herself into every room--little allergen. Our sheperd was in-bred and "affection intolerant"--she didn't like to be too close to us, or tolerate much petting, but she was very polite. The current rescue mutt needs contact at most times. I do get shots for dog allergy, but I've had a dog all of my life. I just draw the line at cats. I did pull the rug in our bedroom about 7 or 8 years ago, and the finish is sort of dull, but nice. The Whirlpool filers are often on sale at National Allergy Supply, or Abt electronics on line. (The Sears HEPA room purifiers used to be made by Whirlpool, and just repackaged.) I've seen the red Kenmore vacuums--I'll be they're fine. Judy > > Ellen, > > I use the Whirlpool HEPA filters: there was once a consumer's report [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > ellen > I've seen the red Kenmore vacuums--I'll be they're fine. I LOVE my Elextrolux Oxygen Ultra. Amazing suction, attachments (a powered rotating upholstery brush, too) and filtration. Susan Susan, I just saw one in a store today: it's good to know it works well. I don't get the trend for bagless vacuums: I realize people don't want to pay for the bags, but I don't want to breath all the stuff I vacuum when I empty the vacuum. We only have a little one for my daughter's dorm room, but all the ads are for bagless ones now. It seems like a bagged vacuum is phasing out. Judy > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Susan > Susan, > I just saw one in a store today: it's good to know it works well. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > daughter's dorm room, but all the ads are for bagless ones now. It > seems like a bagged vacuum is phasing out. I got my kid a little tiny canister vaccuum (A Eureka, Electrolux??) with a detachable HEPA filter to put on the back and with microfiltration bags. I don't think bags are being phased out, not by allergy sufferers. Maybe by Dyson and some of the cheaper ones. I do love my cordless rechargeable Eureka boss electric broom for quick clean ups, but at least it has a filtered dirt cup. Susan > Susan, > I just saw one in a store today: it's good to know it works well. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > daughter's dorm room, but all the ads are for bagless ones now. It > seems like a bagged vacuum is phasing out. P.S. just to be clear, the Oxygen Ultra has microfiltration bags and HEPA filtration. Nothing escapes, I can deeply inhale the exhaust and it's clean, fresh air. Susan
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