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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Sinusitis / May 2007New to Nasal Irrigation
I've been wanting to attempt nasal irrigation after a bout of acute sinusitis in December and subsequent (and prior) chronic blockage and reduced sense of smell. I used a bulb syringe and commercial saline solution and the method recommended on the Mayo Clinic site. I appear to be so blocked that I couldn't get the solution to come out the other nostril (or mouth). I've read comments here that irrigation shouldn't be "forced" through. Could I be performing it incorrectly, or can one be so obstructed that nasal irrigation isn't possible? Should I keep trying, or is this evidence that I should see a doctor. Any comments would be greatly appreciated! > I've been wanting to attempt nasal irrigation after a bout of acute > sinusitis in December and subsequent (and prior) chronic blockage and [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Any comments would be greatly appreciated! If you can't get any air through, don't force. Try drinking some hot liquid first, like soup, I use hot V-8 juice. That seems to slightly open the nose so I can get air or water through. Have you been to a doctor yet? Jamffer > I've read comments here that irrigation shouldn't be "forced" through. Could > I be performing it incorrectly, or can one be so obstructed that nasal > irrigation isn't possible? Should I keep trying, or is this evidence that I > should see a doctor. You should see a doctor. My nose was so blocked that my ENT couldn't even pass his endoscope through--my septum was so deviated that his endoscope would have had to make an S-turn jog to get thru there. Decongestants and/or steroids may shrink the swelling down enough for irrigation to then work.  SignatureSteven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. I am going to assume that either you are going to a doctor, or are waiting for a referal. Meantime: If you were ever able to breath through both nostrils, then you should be able to establish an airpath. What Gramph suggests is good. Another method is to use chewable vitiman C and ZanTAC (The over the counter tummy med) together like a throat lozenge. The blockage is often back, just farward of the plane of your ears and your only hope of clearing it out enough to breath is to loosen it up and sniff and spit it out the back way. Lay on the bad side and give the C and Zantac mixture 10,or 15 minutes to work, then sniff the goo out the back way. Repeat, sniff, spit, sniff, spit, sniff, spit, soak soak, sniff spit, finally blow then sniff and spit some more. etc. etc. etc. It will taste pretty bitter but it should allow you to open up enough to begin to irrigate. > I am going to assume that either you are going to a doctor, or are > waiting for a referal. > Meantime: Thank you (and also to Ghamp and Steven L.) for your advice! I haven't been to a doctor about this (dealing with other somewhat more pressing medical stuff). I've also felt congested most of my life and it's taken a diminished sense of smell and resulting effect on my palate to finally force me to action. In other words, foods I used to love are blah to me, and I can't smell the lilacs this spring. If I can't get the irrigation going, and probably even if I can, it looks like I should probably get things checked out. >If I can't get the irrigation going, and probably > even if I can, it looks like I should probably > get things checked out. If you haven't already, I would get the Dr. to set up a catscan, just to see what's going on in there. Other than that... Don't force the irrigation fluid in, if our nose is plugged. ...You didn't elaborate on your condition, but if you find moments where you can breath through the nose, then irrigate at these times. I know I've had moments myself, where I couldn't get the liquid in. ..I use the water pik, and if I'm in any doubt, I just hold it really loosely by my nostril. ...This way if it's plugged, the water just runs back out again. Further... I have had odd times where the liquid goes fine into one nostril and out the other, but if I reverse, it's like the nose is plugged. Can't figure that one out;-) AAR.. Irrigation has been the best tool for me towards keeping my sinus problems under control. Hope you, ultimately, have the same luck.. ....Jon > AAR.. Irrigation has been the best tool for me towards keeping my > sinus problems under control. Hope you, ultimately, have the same > luck.. ....Jon Thanks! I *can* actually breathe (somewhat) through my nose, so I'm hoping I'll be able to get this going! >Thanks! I *can* actually breathe (somewhat) > through my nose, so I'm hoping I'll be able to > get this going! Before I started irrigating, everyone I talked to on the phone thought I had a cold. ...It took a while, but the irrigation regimen has allowed me to avoid an operation that my ENT was going to set up for me. ...And that was 7 years ago.. Moreover, I have avoided all antibiotics for over 3 years now, as I am now able to flush out the few infection flair-ups that I'm still prone to get. ...Irrigation hasn't cured my problem, but it definitely keeps it in check. If you can breath through your nose, Go buy a water pik and Dr. Grossans adaptor. ...It really works. ...Jon > Before I started irrigating, everyone I talked to on the phone thought I > had a cold. ...It took a while, but the irrigation regimen has allowed [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > If you can breath through your nose, Go buy a water pik and Dr. Grossans > adaptor. ...It really works. ...Jon I'm definitely thinking I will get the adapter. After seeing my Mom in the hospital after sinus surgery, I hope *never* to have to go through anything similar! On 5/27/07 12:24 AM, in article 25742-46593212-566@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net, "Johnny1000@webtv.net" > If you can breath through your nose, Go buy a water pik and Dr. Grossans > adaptor. ...It really works. ...Jon My company makes the Hydro Pulse which is designed for pulsatile irrigation of nose and sinuses I believe the advantage of a system designed for the nose/sinses includes A. It is rubber latex free. My concern is that a system that contains rubber might cause latex sensitivity. B the pressure is fixed. Once set it remains at that safe level and doesn't fluctuate C. Since it is registered as a nasal/sinus irrigator some insurance plans will reimburse the cost of the Hydro Pulse . D. The tank is calibrated especially for easily measuring and adding medications as more and more doctors treat this way. I apologise is that sounds like a commercial, but rubber/latex sensitivity is a serious condition and the nose is a prime allergenic organ. > On 5/27/07 12:24 AM, in article > 25742-46593212-566@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net, "Johnny1000@webtv.net" [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > I apologise is that sounds like a commercial, but rubber/latex sensitivity > is a serious condition and the nose is a prime allergenic organ. Latex allergy seems to be associated with inhaling it from powdered latex gloves. No one on this group has ever reported an adverse allergic or other event froj using an adaptor or any other produce, latex or not. Susan On 5/25/07 8:25 PM, in article 1180149948.205053.111340@q66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com, "truehawk" > I am going to assume that either you are going to a doctor, or are > waiting for a referal. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > It will taste pretty bitter but it should allow you to open up enough > to begin to irrigate. If the nose is blocked to irrigation a Vick's or Benzedrex inhaller can be used to open the passages. It is very important not to force the liquid on high pressure. The advantage of a regulated pressure is that you don't go too high. "Murray Grossan" <hydromed@adelphia.net> wrote > If the nose is blocked to irrigation a Vick's or Benzedrex inhaller can be > used to open the passages. It is very important not to force the liquid on > high pressure. The advantage of a regulated pressure is that you don't go > too high. Thanks, I will give that a try!
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