The first thing that I noticed was the "brainfog," as I've come to
call it since. Then a month or two later came the headaches - somewhat
mild, but ever present. A few months later I started coughing and
suffering daily from general wheeziness...somewhere at the beginning
of this onslaught I started to realize that I'd been coughing up mucus
for what seemed like a long time (it may have actually been my first
symptom, it just went unnoticed).
Now, fourteen months later, all problems still persist, and if
anything have actually worsened. I can find it a trying task to think
clearly about much of anything, a daily state that is usually
precipitated by an apparent sensitivity to light.
I've had two CT's and an MRI. First was the MRI, which pointed towards
a "moderate" case of sinusitis - an unfamiliar condition to me at the
time, an unwelcome one now. Neither of the two CT's since have shown
any infection that my ENT is concerned with. Instead I have an open
offer of surgery to correct my deviated septum and enlarged turbinate
(I believe that's what he said)...although I really have little
trouble breathing through my nose, and so am not convinced that this
is the root of my problem.
Now, the reason for this post. No specialist or general doctor that
I've seen (more than a few) will admit any connection or explanation
for the disorientation that was actually the first symptom that I
noticed. Judging from posts of many others in this newsgroup, this is
the common view.
So what, then, am I suffering from? I have symptoms that clearly
point to sinusitis (post-nasal drip, resulting cough, etc), and yet my
least favorite symptoms of the bunch (headaches and brainfog) can
easily be attributed to a migraine. Can sinusitis bring about a
migraine? Or vice versa? I've read a couple articles that hint at a
connection:
http://www.webmd.com/migraines-headaches/news/20030318/sinus-headache-symptoms-m
igraine
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:R4nl-f3TbjAJ:www.neurologyreviews.com/jul01/
nr_jul01_headache.html+sinusitis+migraines&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=30&gl=us&client=fire
fox-a
http://www.respiratoryreviews.com/mar03/rr_mar03_myths.html
The last article actually actually says that migraines CAN cause post-
nasal drip and the like.
I actually have seen a Neurologist who told me (based on an EEG) that
I seem to be a candidate for migraines, but I didn't pay much
attention at the time due to having already been convinced that my
problem was a sinus infection. I'm now inclined to consider the
migraine, but then again, I WAS actually diagnosed with sinusitis in
the original MRI. I've also been on several rounds of anti-biotics,
and tried irrigating with no improvement.
I'm a bit lost...I've got an appointment with an allergist next month
to explore yet another avenue, but I'm growing tired and impatient .
Has anyone met with a similar situation?
One last thing I wanted to mention. The above symptoms are CONSTANT.
Sometimes it's bad, other times it worse, but always present. Others
on this board talk about infections coming and going, but that doesn't
seem to be my experience...Every day I can count of more of the
same...
BTW, it's been great to have this board as a resource - good to know
that I'm not in it alone. Thanks people!
truehawk - 13 May 2007 06:28 GMT
On May 12, 7:57 pm, dyger...@gmail.com wrote:
> The first thing that I noticed was the "brainfog," as I've come to
> call it since. Then a month or two later came the headaches - somewhat
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> BTW, it's been great to have this board as a resource - good to know
> that I'm not in it alone. Thanks people!
Brain fog is SOOOO annoying.
You obviously need different doctors.
What area are you in?
=====
What i really want is to see an epidemilogical study funded to study
that corrolation between chronic sinusitis and eventual Altzheimers.
There is an aritcal here that you should read if you can get it to
open. For some reason UMDNJ's website is down.
Remember that Staph A. another really sinusitis bacteria, makes
hyaluronidese or spreading factor which causes blood vessels to leak
plasma.
That is pretty much the defination of inflamation., And a staph-
containing biofilm on your turbinates would be about 3/4 of an inch
from your brain. Also E. coli produces soluible beta amyloid to bungee
itself to the tissue, as do a lot of the other bugs and has been found
in the sinuses when it has been looked for, more as a thin film that
is not thought to asend to clinical significance, than in mass
colonies. However E. coli is an attachment specialist and where it
attaches other stuff can attach on top of it.
http://www.umdnj.edu/home2web/research/publications/fall06/4.htm
Now this artical details how plasma proteins, which would normally be
excluded from the brain by the blood brain barrier
stick to neurons, and when they are injested by the nueron, which is
what cells usually do to things that stick to them,
the plasma proteins cause the tau inside the neuron to tangle,
eventually killing the neuron and leaving a plaque behind.
Anyway, brain fog and chronic fatigue are classic symptoms of
sinusitis. I believe that migraine is related to spasam of the
temporal arteries
and is usually accompanied by visual cues, halos, trotting dots etc,
and nausa and light sensitivity. A high dose of Nitro glycerine can
cause a migraine. It is possible that migraine might salivating or
weeping but there is no way that I know of that a migraine can cause
thick goo.
I have had haedaches that resolved by application of chloraseptic,
(but that would block my nose entirely for a day), or resolved
with a course of Euthromycian or Bixian as my sinuses got better.
This is my own theory and does not reperesent current thought by the
medical management.
It is considered radical except in a couple of grad student offices.
I once wrote to a guy that was diasecting the brains of schizophrenics
looking for bacteria (he was finding antibodies to clymadia), to look
in their sinuses while he was about it. To undersstand why, you have
to remember that ergot fungus creats one of the most powerful
halucigens, and that some other fungi that live in grass produce an
ischemic factor that is so strong that the cows that eat this bit of
fescue have their tails fall off. This grass is not different from
any other fescue in the feild other than it has this fungus living in
it. So I think that it likely that altzheimers and schizophrenia may
be caused by a combination of infecious agents, just different ones.
dygerati@gmail.com - 16 May 2007 01:30 GMT
> On May 12, 7:57 pm, dyger...@gmail.com wrote:
>
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> it. So I think that it likely that altzheimers and schizophrenia may
> be caused by a combination of infecious agents, just different ones.
As for different doc's, I have precious few choices...I've been to two
ENT's - one of them completely and utterly useless, the other still
didn't inspire a lot of confidence. I've been told by my general
practitioner that that's the sum and total of my choices in area. I'm
in Southern Oregon (medford specifically) in anyone can suggest an
alternative.
"One possibility is slow mucociliary clearance. Suggest clearing that
to see
it symptoms stop. "
Via irrigation? I tried that for a couple weeks, no discernible help.
Thanks!
truehawk - 16 May 2007 05:35 GMT
On May 15, 8:30 pm, dyger...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On May 12, 7:57 pm, dyger...@gmail.com wrote:
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Take a look at the patient stories here.
Anything ring a bell?
http://www.sinusinfocenter.com/index.html
Murray Grossan - 13 May 2007 23:49 GMT
On 5/12/07 4:57 PM, in article
1179014262.442038.81130@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, "dygerati@gmail.com"
> The first thing that I noticed was the "brainfog," as I've come to
> call it since. Then a month or two later came the headaches - somewhat
[quoted text clipped - 61 lines]
> BTW, it's been great to have this board as a resource - good to know
> that I'm not in it alone. Thanks people!
One possibility is slow mucociliary clearance. Suggest clearing that to see
it symptoms stop.
Possibly you misinterpreted what was written - certain headaches - histmine
- can be accompanied by nasal discharge but migraine doesn not cause daily
post nasal drip.
dygerati@gmail.com - 16 May 2007 01:26 GMT
> On 5/12/07 4:57 PM, in article
> 1179014262.442038.81...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, "dyger...@gmail.com"
[quoted text clipped - 71 lines]
> - can be accompanied by nasal discharge but migraine doesn not cause daily
> post nasal drip.
"Migraine is often mistaken for sinusitis-related headache because
nearly half of migraines involve autonomic features usually attributed
to sinusitis, such as a sinus pain or pressure, runny or stuffy nose,
watery eyes, and postnasal drip. The brain does not recognize or
localize migraine pain very well and often refers such pain to the
neck, face, or head, Dr. Tepper explained."
Taken from the last article listed above - seems pretty clear to me,
evidently migraines can be responsible for some of these symptoms?
(I'm still not ruling out the possibility that I'm misinterpreting, my
brain's a bit foggy after all :-])
Lynn - 15 May 2007 21:39 GMT
You can have both sinusitus and migraines. I do. I believe the
sinusitus sometimes triggers a migraine. You just have to keep ruling
things out and researching and trying new things to eliminate the
symptoms. I found that Allegra helped my "fogginess" that I would get
around allergy season.