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The medical device world is harsh on things that don't generate repeat business

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truehawk - 04 Mar 2007 02:14 GMT
Somnoplasty unit developer lost money, was aquired by Gyrus and web
site now down.

Seems that not enough doctors bought the unit.

. The web site has been allowed to expire.
http://www.somnoplasty.com/

Anyone got any real ideas what to do about this???/
Murray Grossan - 04 Mar 2007 03:21 GMT
On 3/3/07 6:14 PM, in article
1172974483.295361.125450@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com, "truehawk"

> Somnoplasty unit developer lost money, was aquired by Gyrus and web
> site now down.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Anyone got any real ideas what to do about this???/

I don't know about the web site but we purchase and use the tips all the
time and so do other doctors. They do have some competition from less
expensive units.
truehawk - 04 Mar 2007 09:19 GMT
Biofilm formers have the LOVE OF IRON. They strongly adsorb to it and
one can use eddycurrent to strip them off.
When I read Nahanton's post on turbinate radioablation I thought
"ALRIGHT,  RF stripping for people! " Now if I can just get treated
and have my brother and sons threated before they go out of business.
"
What disturbs me is that they are not offering any new units for
sale.
I gather that it was not really all that successful for treating
people with soft pallets that collapsed into their airways, but it
DOES seem to be really effective
at reducing the size of swollen turbinates.

Alternating currents do not flow through a conductor uniformly; the
higher the frequency the more the current is confined to the surface.
When using eddy current to inspect a brazement, or diffusion-bonded
joint, one scans through a succession of frequencies, attenuation at a
lower frequency indicating a problem farther under the surface,
attenuation at high frequencies near or on the surface.
RF frequency currents "skin", that is that they tend to travel right
on the surface. At 1.8 Gig no matter how deep they put the needle the
current is primarily going to try to flow on the surface. Which means
that it is going cook a layer on the surrounding surface probably a
couple of microns thick. Just how the energy  is distributed over the
depth wise and over the surface from the point of origin at the needle
to the ground would be interesting to investigate, it will depend
where the ground is attached among other things.

Evidently this frequency is high enough to cook the little bugs in the
goo, which seem to be heat sensitive anyway,  without cooking the base
of the much bigger cilia underneath, so they can recover.  I bet this
thing has not really been optimized to get rid of bacteria rather than
create a gross lesion, I know that they are useful in reducing
hyperatrophy, but I think it might be also be possible to use a
different shaped lead and get rid of the bacteria without creating a
gross lesion.
Murray Grossan - 04 Mar 2007 18:47 GMT
On 3/4/07 1:19 AM, in article
1172999991.705279.166630@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com, "truehawk"

> What disturbs me is that they are not offering any new units for
> sale.
> I gather that it was not really all that successful for treating
> people with soft pallets that collapsed into their airways, but it
> DOES seem to be really effective
The advantage of sommoplasty -rediofrequency was that you could be careful
not to overdo the procedure wheher turbinate or soft palate.
The disadvantage was that you might have to repeat the porcddure since you
didn't get enough done the first time.

Ellman corporation and others also make the radiofrequency units.
truehawk - 05 Mar 2007 09:37 GMT
 
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